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Best longwings?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Elgin, May 11, 2009.

  1. forex

    forex Senior member

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    Get them. My Cigar and #8 are worn as often as my black longwings. Oddly my least worn color is my favorite, Whiskey.

    Well,carmel doesn't have them in stock either.Did you get the Ravello from Tom? Carmel is supposed to have Ravello in October but with crepe soles.
     
  2. DrZRM

    DrZRM Senior member

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    I have the RL Darlton shell wingtips too. They are nice, but I have to say, the C&J shell is much more delicate than the Alden. I'm not sure if anyone else has experience with this, but those shoes scratch much more easily that my other shell shoes. That said, they still look good with a bit of wear, I was just a bit surprised given how durable shell generally is.
     
  3. forex

    forex Senior member

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    I have the RL Darlton shell wingtips too. They are nice, but I have to say, the C&J shell is much more delicate than the Alden. I'm not sure if anyone else has experience with this, but those shoes scratch much more easily that my other shell shoes. That said, they still look good with a bit of wear, I was just a bit surprised given how durable shell generally is.

    I,too,noticed that Darlton shell is much more delicate. Does CJ use different leather for its cordovan shoes? Anyone?
    Darltons are a good deal when they are on sale,if you can get them for $415.
     
  4. JayJay

    JayJay Senior member

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    Well,carmel doesn't have them in stock either.Did you get the Ravello from Tom? Carmel is supposed to have Ravello in October but with crepe soles.
    I bought both my Ravello and Cigar longwings from Carmel over a year ago. My Ravello shoes have crepe soles. They are very comfortable and don't look bad at all; however, because of the soles I wear them with casual clothing and "Friday" suits only.
     
  5. JayJay

    JayJay Senior member

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    I have the RL Darlton shell wingtips too. They are nice, but I have to say, the C&J shell is much more delicate than the Alden. I'm not sure if anyone else has experience with this, but those shoes scratch much more easily that my other shell shoes. That said, they still look good with a bit of wear, I was just a bit surprised given how durable shell generally is.
    Yes, RL shells scuff much more easily than other brands I have. I wore my Gifford shell chukkas for the first time Sunday and scuffed them miserably. Fortunately all the marks rubbed out well.
     
  6. jpo

    jpo Senior member

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    My new Kenmoors just arrived. [​IMG] (My vote, also a Cross post from the Shoe Porn Thread)

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    Are the Kenmoors corrected grain or full grain?
     
  7. falsestart

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    I've got a pair of vintage florshiems from ebay - couldn't be more happy with them and if I find them in other colors (mine are brown) I wouldn't hesitate to pick them up. I get lots of good feedback on them.
     
  8. stant62

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    Are the Kenmoors corrected grain or full grain?

    Those look like shell.
     
  9. MyOtherLife

    MyOtherLife Senior member

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    I am one person who has to adhere to a strict budget.
    For my money, I'd rather buy 4 pair of Florsheim Kenmooors than one pair of Alden.

    I would buy the Pebbled Cognac, Burgundy & Pebbled Black & Smooth Black.
    For my feet, The Florsheim Kenmoors are more than comfortable enough.
    Others will say buy one pair of Alden over 3 pair of Florsheim.
    Though Aldens are higher quality for sure, in my opinion, the Florshiem Kenmoor is great quality for the price, and the comfort is on par with Allen Edmonds, again, in my opinion.


    +1
    I did exactly this. I'm wearing my burgundy Kenmoors right now. Fit is true to size.
    The ones I own are the current (India) ones, yet still they are great shoes.
    Stiff at first, but they do get better after a few weeks break-in. Love them.
     
  10. jpo

    jpo Senior member

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    +1 I did exactly this. I'm wearing my burgundy Kenmoors right now. Fit is true to size. The ones I own are the current (India) ones, yet still they are great shoes. Stiff at first, but they do get better after a few weeks break-in. Love them.
    Can anyone answer if the current Florsheim Kenmoors are corrected grain or full grain? I'm currently sitting on a new unworn pair of Loake Royals in burgundy, which are corrected grain. But, I'm considering sending them back to England, as they are just too damn shiny for me.
     
  11. stant62

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    I saw a couple of pairs at a Florsheim store yesterday, the black and burgundy are corrected grain, but there are also a couple of scotch-grain varieties.

    Can anyone answer if the current Florsheim Kenmoors are corrected grain or full grain?
     
  12. Sean Archer

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    For current Kenmoors the safest bet is the black pebble, which I have. I'm still not convinced it's full grain, but I'm glad I bought it first rather than the smooth non-pebble ones. http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/f...174#post995174 Here is the brown pebble pics somebody posted.
     
  13. jpo

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    I saw a couple of pairs at a Florsheim store yesterday, the black and burgundy are corrected grain, but there are also a couple of scotch-grain varieties.
    Thanks for the info, I think the pebbled look pretty good. Are the corrected ones plastic looking? That is ultimately why I returned my Loakes. I asked my wife what she thought of them and without hesitation, she said they looked "plasticy". So I'm wondering in the Florsheims look any better.
     
  14. zenith

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    I picked up a pair of the pebbled cognac Kenmoor's this afternoon at the Factory Store. I can't wait to sport them tomorrow. I would have grabbed the a pair in the burgundy as well, but they didn't have my size. [​IMG] I also grabbed a Golden Fleece BB tie for $25. Good times.
     
  15. jpo

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    I picked up a pair of the pebbled cognac Kenmoor's this afternoon at the Factory Store. I can't wait to sport them tomorrow. I would have grabbed the a pair in the burgundy as well, but they didn't have my size. [​IMG] I also grabbed a Golden Fleece BB tie for $25. Good times.
    did the burgundy's look plasitc-y? How much did you pay for them at the Factory store?
     
  16. JibranK

    JibranK Senior member

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    There is also the Loake Royals. Anyone have any experience with those?

    http://www.pediwear.co.uk/loake/products/1057.php

    They're designed to resemble Cordovan American longwings, which is why they're made of corrected grain. The construction is quite decent. Between those and the current Kenmoors, which cost twice as much, I'd definitely go with them as they are considerably better.
     
  17. JibranK

    JibranK Senior member

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    I just found a pair of AE Richmonds at a local thrift store for $10.00. I had em recrafted.

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    After:
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    Do they replace the cork bed too?
     
  18. Poshak Man

    Poshak Man Senior member

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    Yes, I believe so. They are the first pair of shoes that I've had recrafted by AE. I have not yet received them in the mail, so I can't say for sure. The photos I submitted are ones sent from AE.

    The recrafted shoes look amazing !!![​IMG]
     
  19. zenith

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    did the burgundy's look plasitc-y? How much did you pay for them at the Factory store?
    I thought they had a tinge of a plastic look to them. They did not look nearly as nice in the store as the pictures in Greekgeek's post. $155.
     
  20. Mathew J

    Mathew J Senior member

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    I just ordered Kenmoors for US$159 from the outlet. Pretty cheap experiment in longwings.

    I just returned a pair of them, paid about 125 at the outlet....didn't like the fit of them but then again I have been having size issues due to my feet. Was at the retail store today and they had a pair which looked really sharp, almost like a basket weave pattern on the leather uppers...if I can find those in a size that works I might consider them again but retail store was a little more money at 160 out the door.
     

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