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I see just as much style in someone who dons an acid-wash denim jacket, 'cigarette' plaid trousers, and combat boots as I do in anyone who wears a suit and silk shirt, or a completely androgynous outfit - so long as all are true to that person's personality, and the outfit speaks the truth about them.

Isn’t this just a necessary but not sufficient condition for being stylish? I’ve never met anyone who really thought it was more than a necessary condition.
 

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guise... to inspire @TheFoo and to rail this thread away from #catcore, I dug up this pic of Alan Flusser's own custom cowboy boots, from 1981's Making teh Man. Note the top hat, cane and glove details. The longhorn skull flanked by the "A F" initials is kind of metal tho, although not metal af. #seewhatIdidthere I believe @RSS wears these around Chateau RSS.

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guise... to inspire @TheFoo and to rail this thread away from #catcore, I dug up this pic of Alan Flusser's own custom cowboy boots, from 1981's Making teh Man. Note the top hat, cane and glove details. The longhorn skull flanked by the "A F" initials is kind of metal tho, although not metal af. #seewhatIdidthere I believe @RSS wears these around Chateau RSS.

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When I say that's sexy af, I mean sexy Alan Flusser
 

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When I say that's sexy af, I mean sexy Alan Flusser
"Stupid sexy Flusser."
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@dieworkwear should do a piece on Flanders style. Between his normcore wardrobe and his Assassins sneakers he'd be quite contemporadiddliary
 

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Isn’t this just a necessary but not sufficient condition for being stylish? I’ve never met anyone who really thought it was more than a necessary condition.

I'd say it's actually the sufficient condition. To me, putting together a cohesive outfit, looking sharp/pretty/interesting, or even being comfortable in one's appearance is definitely necessary, but not enough. I've known several people that seemed superficially stylish, but what they wore was never really 'them,' and it showed.

Whenever I see someone whose personality and inner self manifests in their style, they always seem better-dressed. This is also the only definition of style I know of that is inclusive of other possible kinds of style besides only CM, or streetwear, or high fashion, etc.

Often it seems like the posts about CM being more elegant/classy or stuffy/dead - or streetwear being more modern/creative or ugly/weird - are based upon a kind of definition of 'style' that seeks to elevate one perspective over another. Which is totally valid and fine, but I wish the ones posting those points (not naming anyone in particular, so don't get your panties in a twist people) would be more honest to themselves/others about it, because then at least they'd be grounding their argument in a realistic subjectivity which seems to be lacking in those conversations.

For example: Take just about blog post/forum comment about the 'correct' way to dress for any event/outing/thing.
 

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I'd say it's actually the sufficient condition. To me, putting together a cohesive outfit, looking sharp/pretty/interesting, or even being comfortable in one's appearance is definitely necessary, but not enough. I've known several people that seemed superficially stylish, but what they wore was never really 'them,' and it showed.

OK so you're saying there are two necessary conditions (cohesiveness/interest + individual authenticity), and jointly they are necessary and sufficient. That's a much more plausible view than the one you put forward earlier. Sorry for nitpicking.
 

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Again with The True Inner Self™. ?
 
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OK so you're saying there are two necessary conditions (cohesiveness/interest + individual authenticity), and jointly they are necessary and sufficient. That's a much more plausible view than the one you put forward earlier. Sorry for nitpicking.

No problem at all. Perhaps I wasn't entirely clear on that, but that's it in a nutshell.
 

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Again with The True Inner Self™. ?

Not all of us are empty inside. Sometimes there are nasty things that must be displayed.
 

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Do you feel seen? I can give you my bolo tie.
 

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No. Your stare is lost deep inside the empty abyss that is my inner self. ?

I'm so sorry. I'd offer more consolation, but I know it would just fall away into the oblivion of that endless cavern. Cool stalactites though.
 

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