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WTF. That whole controversy was about you policing who could legitimately talk about tailoring. Your point was that people who haven't yet ordered 11 suits from the same tailor can't speak about that tailor's work. I said that's stupid. People can talk about a tailor's work if they've ordered one, two, or three things -- sometimes even not at all. You can talk about a tailor's work if you've seen it and have an opinion. Obviously, it helps to have direct experience with that tailor, but your point about only being able to speak about a tailor's work if you've ordered 11 things is nothing more than gatekeeping.
Your use of “policing” and “gatekeeping” is pejorative and you are playing implausibly obtuse.

Of course anyone can talk about anything they want, whatever their experience. But are all opinions equal?

I can’t see how you can argue against the basic concept that firsthand experience brings a greater depth of perspective. Obviously, having a long-term, iterative working relationship with a tailor gives a client more insight into his work. And obviously, that costs more money than if you just sample a suit or two.

What is not obvious is how the above idea has anything to do with prejudice against socioeconomic class, which you couldn’t help but pin it to. Just like when you insinuated I must be racist because I work in finance and make money or somesuch nonsense.
 

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Tweedledee and Tweedledum?

Gosh, I don’t know how you can personally or professionally function if you can’t answer the above.
Bruh, I was asking for your advice.
 

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Your use of “policing” and “gatekeeping” is pejorative and you are playing implausibly obtuse.

Of course anyone can talk about anything they want, whatever their experience. But are all opinions equal?

I can’t see how you can argue against the basic concept that firsthand experience brings a greater depth of perspective. Obviously, having a long-term, iterative working relationship with a tailor gives a client more insight into his work. And obviously, that costs more money than if you just sample a suit or two.

What is not obvious is how the above idea has anything to do with prejudice against socioeconomic class, which you couldn’t help but pin it to. Just like when you insinuated I must be racist because I work in finance and make money or somesuch nonsense.
Dude, wtf are you talking about. This is a weird mishmash of ideas.

The "11 commissions" thing started because David and I were talking in a Gennaro thread. You and Iammatt called us "menu tasters" because we liked to try different tailors. This was all in the Gennaro thread, where I tried to get Gennaro to come to San Francisco for a trunk show (another menu tasting, I suppose). I never denied that experience matters. But your point was basically that menu tasters such as me and David have no grounds to talk about tailoring or a certain tailor until we've commissioned 11 things from said tailor. That no comment is valid except for that type of experience. That's absurd.

Crazy that I'm having this convo with someone who argued for the value of long term relationships, but has since thrown out his five pairs of OneShoe and no longer even wears his Rubi jackets, let alone commission new things.

Also, I've never insinuated that you're racist and have no idea what you're talking about.

People interested in the whole 11 commissions saga can read this thread starting with this post

 

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Please refrain from talking about white shirts underneath button-ups until you've tried the style 11 times
It begs the question why Foo only orders his Charvet shirts in multiples of 10. Just one short of getting a true understanding of Charvet’s abilities.
 

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Please refrain from talking about white shirts underneath button-ups until you've tried the style 11 times
Here's what I don't get (and did not get until i think it was @gdl203 brought it up).
We spend a lotta money on these nice-ass shirts that are designed to be soft and comfy.

Why put a cheap shirt on that prevents us feeling the niceness.
 

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