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Bespoke shirts online for 39 dollars! Ergoni.com

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Holstein Bilter, Feb 14, 2007.

  1. Shirtmaven

    Shirtmaven Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    i was quite curious as you can imagine. I still can not figure out how Jantzen makes money using HK labor offering so many bells and wistles with out upcharges.

    the measurement softwear is based on a program developed in conjunction with UNC and the US Army. they wanted to come up with a way to make unifroms to size rather then having so many sizes in stock. factories were or are set up to use computerized cutting equipment.
    At least this is my assumption based on what I could figure out from their information.

    This is the same softwear that lands end uses for their custom shirt program. I think Paul Fredricks may also be using this program.


    What bothered me about their site was how vague it all seemed. I wanted to see how to take the measurements on the second section, but there were no diagrams. no mention of lead times. which asian countries were they made in.
    100/2 and 140/2 from china are OK but a little mushy.IMO.

    I am curious to see the results as well.

    Carl
     
  2. Holstein Bilter

    Holstein Bilter Senior member

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    I have 4 shirts on order. Will let you all know the results.

    Regards.

    HB
     
  3. Quirk

    Quirk Senior member

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    i was quite curious as you can imagine. I still can not figure out how Jantzen makes money using HK labor offering so many bells and wistles with out upcharges.
    Maybe they're subsidized by the government to help HK maintain their profile in the worldwide bespoke (er, MTM) tailoring market. A loss leader, so to speak.
     
  4. migo

    migo Senior member

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    anyone know how long it takes for the shirts to come in? Please do give us a report, those of you who have ordered...I'm very tempted by this student friendly deal [​IMG]
     
  5. Patrick06790

    Patrick06790 Senior member

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    I just got one. Took two weeks. Looks nice; don't have time to mess with it right now. Later... I only have time to take a couple of photos. I will wash it and report on fit later, although a very quick preliminary test is good - better than the two Lands End custom shirts I have. It's the cheaper of the two lines. There's an odd thing with the sleeve buttons, which are placed at either end of the whatsit. A single cuff meant to be worn with links and converted on the cheap? Beats me. Anyway, you can't tell when it's buttoned, so who cares. The tail is only about 1-1.5" longer than the front, so at first I thought I'd bought a camp shirt. After I've laundered and worn the thing a few times I will have a better idea of whether or not it was a good investment. I don't think it's any great example of the shirtmakers' art, but for $39 it looks pretty decent. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  6. Donald

    Donald Active Member

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    I would be interested to hear about quality, fit and slection of fabrics. I went on the site and could not look at the fabric selection. I have bought from House of Salgado in Toronto, great shirts, luxurious fabrics, but pricey 150 CAD a shirt 6-8wks. I have also bought from Maxwells, I ordered 3 shirts and only like one, 65 CAD, so so quality.
    Cheers,
    D
     
  7. Holstein Bilter

    Holstein Bilter Senior member

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    I just got one. Took two weeks. Looks nice; don't have time to mess with it right now.

    Later...

    I only have time to take a couple of photos. I will wash it and report on fit later, although a very quick preliminary test is good - better than the two Lands End custom shirts I have.

    It's the cheaper of the two lines. There's an odd thing with the sleeve buttons, which are placed at either end of the whatsit. A single cuff meant to be worn with links and converted on the cheap? Beats me. Anyway, you can't tell when it's buttoned, so who cares.

    The tail is only about 1-1.5" longer than the front, so at first I thought I'd bought a camp shirt.

    After I've laundered and worn the thing a few times I will have a better idea of whether or not it was a good investment. I don't think it's any great example of the shirtmakers' art, but for $39 it looks pretty decent.

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    Please do let us know how it turns out after you wash/wear it.
    Regards.

    HB
     
  8. Patrick06790

    Patrick06790 Senior member

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    Washed it in warm water and allowed it ten minutes in the dryer (set on low) with some other stuff before yanking it out and hanging it. Ironed up nicely. Wore it again - no problems. Looks good. I like it better than the two Lands End customs I have.

    I'll probably try Ergoni again.
     
  9. mack11211

    mack11211 Senior member

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    The cuff you have is a 'convertible' cuff, meant to be buttoned or worn with links. They were more common on US RTW dress shirts in the 60s. The double buttons allow you to adjust the shirt to the size of your wrist.

    The check on your collar could have been done more neatly...the line of the fabric is bowing out at the collar edge.
     
  10. the plunger

    the plunger Senior member

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    39 dollars seems expensive.

    edwin
     
  11. NoVaguy

    NoVaguy Senior member

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    39 dollars seems expensive.

    edwin


    are you serious? it's probably one of the cheapest MTM shirts in the world.
     
  12. matadorpoeta

    matadorpoeta Senior member

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    tell the owners to stop using the phony italian name. it actually has the reverse effect of what they are going for.
     
  13. Matt

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    Pretty unremarkable based on the pics. Jantzen still looks a lot better for a few extra dollars...If I paid ten bucks for that in Vietnam, I probably still wouldnt go back to the guy.

    Thanks for sharing though.
     
  14. migo

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    they redesigned the site...but it's really buggy (won't let me put in my measurements!!)

    I emailed the dude so hopefully it'll be up soon...I really want to order a shirt right now!
     
  15. Holstein Bilter

    Holstein Bilter Senior member

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    tell the owners to stop using the phony italian name. it actually has the reverse effect of what they are going for.
    Don't think it's an italian name at all. "Ergoni" = "Ergonomic" Not Italian, but an Italian like play on words. That sounds very business school idea derived by the site creator...so I applaud it. Regards, HB
     
  16. gdl203

    gdl203 Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    Received mine and I don't think I will ever wear it. Shirt is made in India with unremarkable (euphemism) fabric, poor construction, the heaviest/thickest fusing ever experienced by man (collar and cuffs), the cheapest looking plastic buttons, and the buttonholes are not even properly cut (couldn't use the french cuffs without first enlarging the hole with a blade). Fit is not even that great - but honestly who cares when quality is so poor....

    By no means a viable alternative to Jantzen
     
  17. StreetLaw

    StreetLaw Well-Known Member

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    tell the owners to stop using the phony italian name. it actually has the reverse effect of what they are going for.

    It reminded me of the scene in the UK version of The Office where David Brent shows off his new "Sergio Georgini" jacket.
     
  18. P3R3

    P3R3 Senior member

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    The thing I hate about Jantzen is the horrible site. He uses an EMAIL FORM to receive your credit card info, which is why I have never used him. It is completely unencrypted and very very easy for a 3rd party to intercept the communications.
     
  19. gdl203

    gdl203 Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    The thing I hate about Jantzen is the horrible site. He uses an EMAIL FORM to receive your credit card info, which is why I have never used him. It is completely unencrypted and very very easy for a 3rd party to intercept the communications.

    You can call him and give him your cc number via phone if you have a problem with unencrypted electronic communications
     
  20. mrchapel

    mrchapel Senior member

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    The thing I hate about Jantzen is the horrible site. He uses an EMAIL FORM to receive your credit card info, which is why I have never used him. It is completely unencrypted and very very easy for a 3rd party to intercept the communications.

    Which is why I have a "disposable" card number that can be used only once. Call your bank or credit card company to see if they have such a feature.

    I used to use a separate bank account for online transactions. This is also an option; as you could just transfer the amount you want to pay into that account, keeping your main account secure.
     

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