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Bespoke Overload?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Butler, Apr 14, 2011.

  1. Butler

    Butler Senior member

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    Realizing that just a hand full of members are in a position to offer valid inputs to this thread, I still would like to hear if you recognize this dilemma:

    With a wardrobe consisting of 50+ or probably say 100+ bespoke garments (not talking about shirts), from any of the top 10-15 tailors in the world (and no, I'm not going into that discussion:), how do you handle the question of rotation?

    Even if we change twice a day, or 3 times if one change for dinner, each item will only be worn a few times a year.

    If you have a Butler or Valet, it will be his responsibility to seek rotation when laying out the clothes for his employer (much easier with shoes, of course).

    Even under those circumstances, the employer (or his better half!) will often request some of his favourite outfits to be prepared.

    And this is just the point; in my experience you will often reach a point when commissioning bespoke clothes, where a lot of it will never or very rarely be worn, because you tend to favour some items more than others!

    As Vox has stated: "It is not a question whether one needs it, but that you want it" - but nevertheless, do we have a case of:

    Bespoke overload?
     
  2. Blackhood

    Blackhood Senior member

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    100 bespoke garment?

    356 days in a year?
    2 Changes a day?

    730 outfits per year?

    Every outfit gets used 7 times in a year. I have many clothes that get used less than this.
     
  3. Butler

    Butler Senior member

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    Yes - but are they bespoke from the very best artisans?
     
  4. twistoffat

    twistoffat Senior member

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    Is this issue not just relevant to bespoke but to having maybe too many clothes in general.
    How many do we need and who many do we actually have. I have some bespoke shirts and try get through all my clothing at some time in the year. I do find that despite variety in my wardrobe I do have my favourite pieces that get more wear
     
  5. aj_del

    aj_del Senior member

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    OP (or anyone in his position) needs a hobby .... other than clothes
     
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    Yes - but are they bespoke from the very best artisans?

    That's open to endless discussion...

    I have 12 bespoke suits and they're all from the very best and a few very nice MTM.

    I don't have the finances to own 100 bespoke suits...
     
  7. Butler

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    OP (or anyone in his position) needs a hobby .... other than clothes

    Cant speak for others - but for me it is not a hobby at all, just part of a lifestyle.

    Additional thought: If you have a hobby like collecting art or cars, at least you can look at it and use them - and other people can enjoy it as well - you don't take friends or guests for a tour of a gentleman's wardrobe - so Bespoke overload perhaps!
     
  8. Blackhood

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    Let me get this straight, you think you have too many clothes?

    You're not asking a question, or discussing if its possible, you are simply telling us that you are the owner of 100+ bespoke suits?

    Congratulations, I am very hapy for you. Why is this a thread?
     
  9. twistoffat

    twistoffat Senior member

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    I don´t understand the need to have 100 bespoke suits. Couldn´t the tailor get it right the first time [​IMG]
     
  10. Butler

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    Let me get this straight, you think you have too many clothes?

    You're not asking a question, or discussing if its possible, you are simply telling us that you are the owner of 100+ bespoke suits?

    Congratulations, I am very hapy for you. Why is this a thread?


    I do not have 100+ bespoke items , but I'm conversant with the situation - and I am asking a question: How do you rotate (or not) if you have that many bespoke items, and do you find that some items are used much more than others, and some never?
     
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    Cant speak for others - but for me it is not a hobby at all, just part of a lifestyle.

    Additional thought: If you have a hobby like collecting art or cars, at least you can look at it and use them - and other people can enjoy it as well - you don't take friends or guests for a tour of a gentleman's wardrobe - so Bespoke overload perhaps!


    So, you have the lifestyle where you have 100 suits but are wearing 8 of them because you like those the best ? I guess you are in that point where you have care for 50000 USD as much as I care for 50 USD. Like I would buy a trouser from Zara and not really beat myself up if I only wore it one time, you would apply to a 6000 USD suit.

    Whole thing reminds of when someone was selling 20-25 Attolini MTM/MTO suits which according to the seller were made for a billionaire who didnt bother to pick them up.
     
  12. Don Carlos

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    Only one butler?! What am I, a farmer? Ha!
     
  13. cbfn

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    Reminds me of a story my tailor told me; He said that the Sheikh of Dubai (or something like that) had about 1.000 suits but only wore ten of them, he was sad when he saw them just hanging there in that gigantic wardrobe.
     
  14. S. Magnozzi

    S. Magnozzi Senior member

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    Realizing that just a hand full of members are in a position to offer valid inputs to this thread, I still would like to hear if you recognize this dilemma:

    With a wardrobe consisting of 50+ or probably say 100+ bespoke garments (not talking about shirts), from any of the top 10-15 tailors in the world (and no, I'm not going into that discussion:), how do you handle the question of rotation?

    Even if we change twice a day, or 3 times if one change for dinner, each item will only be worn a few times a year.

    If you have a Butler or Valet, it will be his responsibility to seek rotation when laying out the clothes for his employer (much easier with shoes, of course).

    Even under those circumstances, the employer (or his better half!) will often request some of his favourite outfits to be prepared.

    And this is just the point; in my experience you will often reach a point when commissioning bespoke clothes, where a lot of it will never or very rarely be worn, because you tend to favour some items more than others!


    As Vox has stated: "It is not a question whether one needs it, but that you want it" - but nevertheless, do we have a case of:

    Bespoke overload?


    It depends, if you keep all garments at one place, then it might seem excessive; but many who are bespoke clients spend their time in more than one house. Hence, 100 suits over let's say 3 different locations does seem rather reasonable.
     
  15. gdl203

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    Just like with many things, there is probably an 80/20 rule here. Not every one of the 100 suits will be worn 1/100th of the time. Many will be worn more often and some will not be worn a year or two. I don't think it makes a ton of sense to try to have an equally distributed "rotation". When you have enough money for 100 bespoke suits, you wear WTF you want whenever tf you want.
     
  16. alphaO888

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    Realizing that just a hand full of members are in a position to offer valid inputs to this thread, I still would like to hear if you recognize this dilemma:

    With a wardrobe consisting of 50+ or probably say 100+ bespoke garments (not talking about shirts), from any of the top 10-15 tailors in the world (and no, I'm not going into that discussion:), how do you handle the question of rotation?

    Even if we change twice a day, or 3 times if one change for dinner, each item will only be worn a few times a year.

    If you have a Butler or Valet, it will be his responsibility to seek rotation when laying out the clothes for his employer (much easier with shoes, of course).

    Even under those circumstances, the employer (or his better half!) will often request some of his favourite outfits to be prepared.

    And this is just the point; in my experience you will often reach a point when commissioning bespoke clothes, where a lot of it will never or very rarely be worn, because you tend to favour some items more than others!

    As Vox has stated: "It is not a question whether one needs it, but that you want it" - but nevertheless, do we have a case of:

    Bespoke overload?


    Besides the fact that it sounds like you're starting this thread to just blow yourself - your dilemma has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that you have too many bespoke items.

    If I goto Walmart and buy 100+ different colored Hanes T-shirts along with 50+ matching pairs of $10 jeans I would have the exact same problem as what you have. In fact, I'd say every single member on this board has the same issue where they favor certain pieces of clothing over others.

    The whole point of having a lot of suits, slacks, ties, shoes in a rotation is so that they all last longer. If you truly favor some suits over others then you should just "commission" the same 3 suits you like to wear and have them copied into 100.
     
  17. TTO

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    Butler, you are a man of style and taste, If you are having trouble coming up with excuses to commission yet more beautiful garments, please feel free to have them made for me! Failing this wonderful plan, I would quite happily accept the donation of anything you feel goes unworn to often, therefore clearing space in your creaking wardrobe(s)!
    -TTO
    (In envy your problem0
     
  18. miketoc

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    You don't throw your bespokes out after a single wear? gross [​IMG]
     
  19. Patek

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    You don't throw your bespokes out after a single wear? gross [​IMG]

    I only throw out the shoes after a single wear. I hate when the bottoms get scratched.
     
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