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Belvest AW13 at Pitti Uomo 83

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by LA Guy, Jan 22, 2013.

  1. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Moderator

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    We had the chance to look at the Belvest AW13 collection a couple of weeks ago at Pitti Uomo 83. I was first introduced to the line at Louis Boston - where the cut of the jackets is slightly shorter and trimmer through the arms than usual. This was back in the early 2000s, when Louis was installed in the New England Museum of Natural History, and the window displays showed the line mixed and matched in a very casual, slightly off kilter, but elegant way.

    Tailored, classic, menswear is about the details and subtle tweaks, and is usually, in my opinion, shown best in a showroom or tradeshow setting than on the runway. So, lucky us.

    This years collection was a much as I remembered it, with a lot of tailoring and soft outerwear and knits, in neutral colors with port and orange being the dominant colors, and a lot of natural shoulder jackets and coats in checked fabrics. A lot of the outerwear is unlined in double-sided fabrics.

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    Belvest stuff was really nice. That brown coat in the middle of the last pic was particularly nice. I'll have more to say about Belvest later on, with more pictures too.
     
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    GusW Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Belvest makes wonderful clothing and is an excellent value. I find that I need to size up for the best fit. MAC in San Francisco carries some of their clothing. I especially like their softer construction models.
     
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  6. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Moderator

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    American fit, PSG, american fit. I know that you think that I wear my clothes fitted, but it's nearly relaxed fit by Italian standards.
     
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    They do quite a wide variety, partly because they make for many other brands, as you say. They make slim and structured as well as drapey and deconstructed.
     
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    I like that brown plaid jacket. Do you have a full view pic of it? (As in, not a close up?)
     
  9. LA Guy

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    Possibly, but I was only given clearance to publish these ones. I do have outtakes though.
     
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    Maybe I need to cut back on the pasta :)
     
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    I think that to get that Italian fit on the clothes you already have, you have to do the exact opposite. Buon appetito!
     
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    I THINK this is the same jacket and the lighting in our pictures is just different. In any case, this jacket was amazing. Fantastic lapel roll.

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    at the NMLC near me they have had a bunch of belvest completely unstructured SCs, mostly cotton, and they all have a very drapey/loose fit for the marked size. at least compared to other italian clothing in that marked size that i have or have tried on.
     
  14. dieworkwear

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    So how does that work? Shaya mentioned vendors being very protective over what photos could be published. Do they allow you to freely take photos, but they dictate what can be published online?

    Also, is this why the only photos you ever see come out of Pitti are close-up shots and not full product views? (or at least the majority of the time)
     
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    It might have been their 'Jacket in a Box' jacket?
     
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    Nobody gave me any restrictions on photos that could be published. Some said I couldn't take photos. But nobody said, "ok, but I have to see it before it goes online"
     
  17. LA Guy

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    It depends on the vendor. Both Unbelragazzo and I got permission for any type of shot from Belvest. I volunteered to get the photos okayed, as a professional courtesy, since they were gracious enough to let us run amuck. There are 2 reasons for close up shots.

    First is that a lot of more traditional menswear is really about the fabric and the details, so we put on a lens that is good for that and portraits, and shoot away. When you are outdoors and shooting people, like the street bloggers, you need a telephoto lens. It would be a huge pain to keep on switching out lenses.

    Second, the composition is more difficult to get right on a full product. You often do that if you are buying, but the shots, unless the piece is moved around, or already properly styled on a mannequin, often don't look great. The angle is off, the shoulders are not set correctly on the hanger, you didn't leave proper whitespace, your focus is on the wrong part of the garment, etc....
     
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    That's often the case with the CM vendors. With the SWD vendors, for whatever reason, vendors are often more protective, and you have to develop a good relationship with the vendor, often for several years, before they really trust you.
     
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    +1 on the composition part. Most of the smaller stands are not set up to be photographed really. Their just racks with clothes on them, maybe with one or two mannequins set up in the front, but with most of the stuff, you'll have to take a picture of it on a hanger. And since there's not space set up to hang something with it facing out, you may even have to have one of the sales staff hold it while you take a picture of it.
     
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    never heard of that. they were on hangars though.
     

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