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Belt quality

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by j, Dec 1, 2004.

  1. kitonbrioni

    kitonbrioni Senior member

    Sep 28, 2004
    Actually, the higher quality alligator belts--Brioni, Ferragamo, etc--do not have large scales. Large scale alligator belts are rather delicate and tend to crack and split even if you treat they with conditioner. I enjoy my large scale belts but I do expect to have to have them repaired when they split.

    You might try a custom (bespoke) alligator shop that make their own belts like Flemings of Buckhead and see what they would recommend.
  2. RJman

    RJman Senior member Dubiously Honored

    Dec 10, 2004
    In the not too distant future
    I second Longhi as a good beltmaker. Mine has no exposed stitching. Still, at $150... Martin Dingman makes a decent belt and my daily black belt. On the other side I have a Hermes belt (no, not the H-buckle) that's really cool but, well, cost the earth. Best belt buy might be a Zegna belt on Marshalls clearance at $11... seen 2 days later at Century 21 for $50. Any thoughts on the Regent belts that are relatively cheap at www.classicwardrobe.co.uk ?
  3. AlanC

    AlanC Senior member

    Nov 7, 2003
    Heart of America
    Is Chuck still planning on doing his croc belts?
  4. acole

    acole Senior member

    Feb 10, 2004
    Redwood City, California
    I'm very pleased to see a good discussion of belts. What do people here think of the offerings from AE? I have 2 in basic black and 'chili', and they're holding up quite well so far.
  5. nightowl6261a

    nightowl6261a Senior member

    Sep 15, 2004
    You did read the post from me about the Crookhorn's right, they make the AE Belts.
  6. Horace

    Horace Senior member

    Sep 28, 2004
    I've got some good USA Coach belts -- and the ones from Costa Rica don't seem to be bad either (though not as good a quality as the older USA makes).
  7. montecristo#4

    montecristo#4 Senior member

    Jan 7, 2004
    Reagan Country (Massachusetts)
    I've got a dark brown java lizard belt from Trafalgar that I wear quite a bit. The smaller scales have some texture which makes it more visually interesting than just leather, but it comes off a bit more conservative than alligator.
  8. naturlaut

    naturlaut Senior member

    Feb 27, 2003
    From my meager knowledge, Hermes and Weston make the best belt in terms of construction. Buckle is another topic altogether.

    After the stitching of the two pieces of leather (front and back), different makers/factories use different methods to 'seal' the 1/16" to 1/8" (usually 1/16") opening from the stitch line to the edge. Most (from Ferragamo to Trafalgar to Brioni) use glue, which will either come off or disintegrate in time. After that they will usually paint it black or brown to match the leather colour. Actually, as someone mentioned earlier, all these brands are made from a handful of factories in Italy and UK. However, Weston and Hermes have their own production lines. They both use beewax to seal the edge, which stays smooth in a long run and will not disintegrate. Also, I would tend to put my faith in Hermes and Weston for leather quality (Weston's tannery is world-class).

    As I said, belt buckle is another topic entirely. I don't like the H buckle nor the Weston buckles myself. I like the simple buckle that Lobb Paris uses (in brass or silver).
  9. Super Fly

    Super Fly Well-Known Member

    Jul 17, 2004
    For casual wear I like my Filson bridle leather belts. "Might As Well Have The Best" Filson Belts
  10. ROI

    ROI Well-Known Member

    Sep 7, 2004
    Two notes about Trafalgar: Almost two years ago, the belt side of Trafalgar was sold to Randa, a department store tie maker that wanted to broaden its offering to its existing accounts. While Randa says they are maintaining the Trafalgar factory in Norwalk, CT, I've noticed Trafalgar goods showing up in stores where Marley Hodgson wouldn't have vomited. The new belts in the new accounts are made in China. I haven't noticed the Chinese belts infiltrating any of the historic Trafalgar accounts, independent specialty stores.

    Coincident with the cheapening of a great brand, I've also noticed some standard, CT-made belts turning up in discounters. For instance, I saw a full size range of the 1" chestnut alligator (that Paul Stuart has stocked consistently for at least 20 years) belt in Filene's Basement for $99, about 70% off regular retail. Granted, my data sample is small, but I have to wonder whether Randa is liquidating Trafalgar's standing inventory in preparation for closing the CT factory and moving all their production to China.
  11. misterjase

    misterjase Senior member

    Jun 21, 2007

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