Belstaff waxed jackets: Roadmaster vs Redford

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  1. zeroize

    zeroize Well-Known Member

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    If I recall correctly, in that particular Steve Mcqueen picture, Steve is wearing a Barbour International, though he was known to be a big fan of Belstaff. Also, the jacket Will Smith wore in I Am Legend is a Belstaff Trialmaster, not a Roadmaster.

    I know, it's a similar jacket to the roadmaster, just longer. The picture was to ilustrate how it really looks the the same waxed fabric. I'm pretty sure a lot of people watched that movie and thought the jacket was cool or at least they didn't hated it like in this thread.
     


  2. zeroize

    zeroize Well-Known Member

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    I noticed J crew has an olive-colored Belstaff jacket, which retails for a bit more than the 300€ sale price. Should one be staying away from the J Crew version and buy directly online, despite living in Canada?

    What model is it? Link?
     


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    sq4you Mid-level baller

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    Belstaff Roadmaster on JCrew Its the same jacket as you can get elsewhere. I believe I heard recently that JCrew is not going to be selling the Belstaff's anymore. I can't remember the reason why. I think it had to do with some legal issues. They sell them in certain JCrew stores (like in NY) and on the website. If i remember correctly, they had four available (Road Master, Che Guevara, Trial or Trail master, and a 4th one). Roadmaster was the least expensive if i recall. They have (or had?) women's belstaff's too. Unless you find a price discrepancy, there's no reason you should order from another site over jcrew i think?
     


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    zeroize Well-Known Member

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    Belstaff Roadmaster on JCrew

    Its the same jacket as you can get elsewhere. I believe I heard recently that JCrew is not going to be selling the Belstaff's anymore. I can't remember the reason why. I think it had to do with some legal issues. They sell them in certain JCrew stores (like in NY) and on the website. If i remember correctly, they had four available (Road Master, Che Guevara, Trial or Trail master, and a 4th one). Roadmaster was the least expensive if i recall.

    They have (or had?) women's belstaff's too.

    Unless you find a price discrepancy, there's no reason you should order from another site over jcrew i think?


    There is a thread about a j crew Belstaff clearance. Maybe they don't sell that much and they want to get rid of the brand -> http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=153751

    Anyway, they don't ship to Europe, I can't order anything.
     


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    Contrary to the fine print, the current 30% off J Crew SNOWMAN code seems to be working on the Belstaff and other non J Crew stuff.

    Also, Milan Clothing in the UK has Belstaff 20% off (BELSTAFF20).
    Warning about Milan though. Last order (PS boots) from them took almost a month to arrive and the box was demolished. UK Postal strike didn't help either. At least I didn't get dinged with customs.

    I like my Roadmaster but it's surprisingly not very warm condsidering how heavy it is.
    Of course we've had freakishly cold and dry for Seattle sub-freezing weather for the last week.
    For usual rainy mid 40's Seattle weather it's perfect.
     


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    Contrary to the fine print, the current 30% off J Crew SNOWMAN code seems to be working on the Belstaff and other non J Crew stuff.

    Also, Milan Clothing in the UK has Belstaff 20% off (BELSTAFF20).
    Warning about Milan though. Last order (PS boots) from them took almost a month to arrive and the box was demolished. UK Postal strike didn't help either. At least I didn't get dinged with customs.

    I like my Roadmaster but it's surprisingly not very warm condsidering how heavy it is.
    Of course we've had freakishly cold and dry for Seattle sub-freezing weather for the last week.
    For usual rainy mid 40's Seattle weather it's perfect.


    The roadmaster costs 416€ and the redford 444€ (without the 20%). I think that's because how cheap the pound is since last year, 1L = 0,9€. I'll wait until 25 Dec sales anyway.

    Do you wear this kind of jacket using the belt or you just leave it on the back?
     


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    Ordered the Roadmaster off of Jcrew using the snowman code. The pictures make it look black but the color is described as "belstaff olive". Anyone seen one in person and have an idea what the color is like? I'd rather have a dark brown/olive color than pure black but I guess I can send it back if it doesn't appeal to me.
     


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    Ordered the Roadmaster off of Jcrew using the snowman code. The pictures make it look black but the color is described as "belstaff olive". Anyone seen one in person and have an idea what the color is like? I'd rather have a dark brown/olive color than pure black but I guess I can send it back if it doesn't appeal to me.

    It's a dark greenish brown. I've seen it in person and I like it. I fact I think I prefer it over the black or blue.
     


  10. sq4you

    sq4you Mid-level baller

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    jacket speaks for itself. just fucking buy it already.
     


  11. zeroize

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    jacket speaks for itself. just fucking buy it already.

    It fits you fine, but is that the right length for a 3/4, or is it one inch shorter? When wearing my size (perfect long sleeve) the jacket ends where the legs spread (so closed length is like yours opened, one inch longer). Do you get any wrinkles on the back due to the excess of fabric (especially when wearing the belt)? When I tried it on, the front looked tight and perfect like yours, but the back has a couple of big folds.


    When I see some belstaff models wearing it It seems they choose a smaller size than needed, like in this picture (dude on the left):

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  12. zeroize

    zeroize Well-Known Member

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    On the other hand, this other one is wearing a Redford in a normal proper size for him. I think the problem is people trying to wear a 3/4 long jacket like a waist short jacket.

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  13. Get Smart

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    I like my Roadmaster but it's surprisingly not very warm condsidering how heavy it is.


    yea I found this to be the case with my Barbour Intl too. Not a warm jacket, but it's good in the rain as it's very waterproof, but if you want to be warm you need some layers under it.
     


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    Neither jacket is what i would reach for in order to keep warm. Dry, yes. Warm, no. I am getting the fur liner for my International though. the Belstaff I have is the trialmaster and it's form the late 60s early 70s (dad doesn't remember for sure) but it still looks just as good or better now than it did when mydad wore it when it was new.

    for me, i prefer the Barbour. It just fits my frame better.
     


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    zeroize Well-Known Member

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    Ia this the right fit then or tighter?

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