"Begs the question"

[Connemara]

Originally Posted by M. Bardamu

"Could care less" is the bamboo splint under my fingernails...
UGHHHH yes. My mother loves saying that and I have to correct her every time.

 

[BDC2823]

Originally Posted by Connemara

UGHHHH yes. My mother loves saying that and I have to correct her every time.

I could care less about your need to constantly correct your mother.

 

[RedLantern]

Not sure if anyone has pointed it out yet, but all arguments for or against religion are begging the question.

 

[Teacher]

Originally Posted by RedLantern

Not sure if anyone has pointed it out yet, but all arguments for or against religion are begging the question.

Ironical, isn't that?

 

[lawyerdad]

Originally Posted by wingcat

lawyerdad's comments are well taken regarding not capitalizing the first letter of sentences when i post on the internet, however i believe, and maybe i am wrong, that internet posts generally do not observe that grammatical necessity. you will also note that i do not capitalize "I", again because internet posts in general do not observe that rule. in my opinion it is important to kmow the rules and know when you are breaking them. i try to do that but i am not perfect. i try to conform to internet protocol although i know that it is the easy way out.

Fair enuff. As I hope was clear, I wasn't so much caviling about your lack of initial capitalization so much as enjoying the contrast with "Shampoo".

 

[lawyerdad]

Originally Posted by RedLantern

Not sure if anyone has pointed it out yet, but all arguments for or against religion are begging the question.

I disagree. If by "religion" you mean "god" or "gods" or whatever, your statement is somewhat more accurate. But I still think there's a difference between (1) deciding or recognizing that a particular question cannot be answered definitively by the application of logic to empirical fact; and (2) disingenuously or inartfully structuring an argument such that it assumes its own conclusion. (2) is what "begging the question" really refers to.

 

[EL72]

Qualitative Threak!!

 

[RedLantern]

You're right, I wasn't being specific. I was thinking of all the times people have cited religious text to me when trying to convert me. That is begging the question, no?

 

[lawyerdad]

Originally Posted by RedLantern

You're right, I wasn't being specific. I was thinking of all the times people have cited religious text to me when trying to convert me. That is begging the question, no?

Sounds like it. Figured that was more or less what you meant, but decided I'd run with the theme j has ascribed to this thread.

 

[Cleav]

petitio principii

It's a fallacy