BB Peal (C&J) wholecuts ... fit ... compared to C&J Weymouth??

[Doc4]

I recently purchased a pair of BB Peal 'wholecuts' ... the tan floating medalion. Searches on the forum before buying led me to believe this shoe to be by C&J, and after the fact I tend to agree. Of note,
* one row of nails on the heel, reputed to be a sign of C&J Peals
* written on the inside of the shoe ... 22068 11D
and underneath that, ... 318

I suppose that means these shoes (sized 11D for the US market) are on the 318 last.

The fit is snug but comfortable. I wouldn't want them to be any smaller, and a bit more room would be fine, but as-is is fine too.

I anticipate ordering a pair of C&J Weymouths in the near future (on the 337 last) and am wondering if anyone out there with experience of these two lasts can comment about what English size I should order given my experience with the US-sized Peals mentioned above.

Many thanks in advance

 

[forex]

I think angelicboris has both of those shoes,check with him.If you want to get weymouths why do you need the Peal wholecuts?They are almost identical shoes,except for the color.

 

[Doc4]

Originally Posted by forex

I think angelicboris has both of those shoes,check with him.If you want to get weymouths why do you need the Peal wholecuts?They are almost identical shoes,except for the color.

'need' ... 'want' ... once you get past "two pair of shoes so each can air out for a day after a day of wearing" it's all pretty much lust, obsession, and a love of beautiful things.

 

[Harrydog]

Originally Posted by Doc4

I recently purchased a pair of BB Peal 'wholecuts' ... the tan floating medalion. Searches on the forum before buying led me to believe this shoe to be by C&J, and after the fact I tend to agree. Of note,
* one row of nails on the heel, reputed to be a sign of C&J Peals
* written on the inside of the shoe ... 22068 11D
and underneath that, ... 318

I suppose that means these shoes (sized 11D for the US market) are on the 318 last.

The fit is snug but comfortable. I wouldn't want them to be any smaller, and a bit more room would be fine, but as-is is fine too.

I anticipate ordering a pair of C&J Weymouths in the near future (on the 337 last) and am wondering if anyone out there with experience of these two lasts can comment about what English size I should order given my experience with the US-sized Peals mentioned above.

Many thanks in advance

I have the Peals in what they marked a US 10. I have the Weymouth in UK 9.5. A fairly similar fit.

So, were I you, I'd go with the UK 10.5

 

[forex]

Originally Posted by Doc4

'need' ... 'want' ... once you get past "two pair of shoes so each can air out for a day after a day of wearing" it's all pretty much lust, obsession, and a love of beautiful things.

Agree,but I'd go with a different CJ model,doesn't make much sense to buy identical shoes (at least to me),but those are nice shoes,I have the peal wholecuts myself,very comfortable.

 

[Doc4]

Originally Posted by Harrydog

I have the Peals in what they marked a US 10. I have the Weymouth in UK 9.5. A fairly similar fit.

So, were I you, I'd go with the UK 10.5
Thanks! Are your Weymouths a bit more snug (which I would hope to avoid)? If 'fairly similar' means Weymouths that are a bit roomier, that's fine.

Originally Posted by forex

Agree,but I'd go with a different CJ model,doesn't make much sense to buy identical shoes (at least to me),but those are nice shoes,I have the peal wholecuts myself,very comfortable.

I take your point and agree in theory. It's just that I am really really keen on wholecuts. It may make me a bit

but we each have our own cross to bear.

 

[sf_esq]

It seems to me that the BB shoes made by CJ are slightly narrower than an actual CJ E width. I know that the CJ made Polo shoes are slightly narrower than a CJ 337 in an E width. Personally, I found the 337 last to be quite spacious, whereas I found the Polo by CJ and the Peal shoes made by CJ to be slightly snugger (based on what I own and have tried on at BB).

 

[forex]

I got one word for you: Vass

 

[Harrydog]

Originally Posted by Doc4

Thanks! Are your Weymouths a bit more snug (which I would hope to avoid)? If 'fairly similar' means Weymouths that are a bit roomier, that's fine.


I take your point and agree in theory. It's just that I am really really keen on wholecuts. It may make me a bit

but we each have our own cross to bear.

The Weymouths are a little looser. And wholecut will tend to stretch more anyway.

 

[AnGeLiCbOrIs]

My tan Peal wholecuts are a size 10 D US (9.5E UK) and my Weymouths are size 9.5 E UK. I normally wear a 10.5 D US.

I think the Weymouth looks better but the Peal shoes are a better fit.