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Battle of the Longwings: Alden vs. Florsheim Limited vs. Allen Edmonds

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by jrd617, Nov 11, 2010.

  1. Patek

    Patek Senior member

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    Florsheim screwed me once. I had purchased a brand new pair and I wiped them with a damp rag to get some dust off. The color came out of the leather. I tried polish, but they still looked like crap. I could not believe that new leather would lose its color like that so I brought them back to the store.

    The store sent them back to Florsheim who took two months to tell me that I had used a strong chemical to clean them. I guess H2O falls under their "strong chemical" category. I wrote them a nasty letter telling them that it was my first and last pair of Florsheim shoes. I never went back to the store to pick them up and I will never buy another.

    Take that for what its worth.
     
  2. MyOtherLife

    MyOtherLife Senior member

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    Florsheim screwed me once. I had purchased a brand new pair and I wiped them with a damp rag to get some dust off. The color came out of the leather. I tried polish, but they still looked like crap. I could not believe that new leather would lose its color like that so I brought them back to the store. The store sent them back to Florsheim who took two months to tell me that I had used a strong chemical to clean them. I guess H2O falls under their "strong chemical" category. I wrote them a nasty letter telling them that it was my first and last pair of Florsheim shoes. I never went back to the store to pick them up and I will never buy another. Take that for what its worth.
    $0.00
     
  3. Patek

    Patek Senior member

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    $0.00

    Well, $0.00 is exactly what Florsheims are worth to me.
     
  4. isshinryu101

    isshinryu101 Senior member

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    Well, $0.00 is exactly what Florsheims are worth to me.

    THIS is exactly why it's necessary to stick with older Florsheims. The Kenmoor v-cleats are nice & very rugged shoes, while their newer stuff is CRAP. BUT, that's just one man's opinion.
     
  5. phototristan

    phototristan Senior member

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    I saw the Florsheims in person recently and they looked really cheapy. When you look into the holes of the design, the leather is all frayed and gross looking. In fact some holes were filled in with what looked like suede.
     
  6. flambard

    flambard Senior member

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    Here's a pic of some better Florsheim longwings (by Duckie Brown)

    pebble, burgundy shell, black shell
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    As a l-o-n-g-t-i-m-e wearer of Florsheim Kenmoor Imperials I have to say the Duckie on the left looks rather nice. (!) Don't care too much for the other two, don't like the Veblen - at all.

    The Veblen unfortunately gives off a poor librarian look to me, as do the other two pair of brown shoes in the original post. I think of having to wear baggy clothes to 'complete' the look. But then again we are all talking about attitude in the long run. They will definately look good on some, not on others.
     
  7. aportnoy

    aportnoy Senior member Dubiously Honored

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  8. dolezel

    dolezel New Member

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    Maybe vintage Kenmoor are better in quality than present production.
    What do you think about it?
     
  9. HRH Demetri

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    Gentlemen
    I just read the above site, and you all have personal points of view which is what style is all about. You will always look your best providing your appearance is neat & clean cut,
    sans flashes of personnal extravogence's to the degree that it distracts from you. So I personally feel that the shoe as long as it is polished & clean and is not out of place for the most part will look good. Now that is not to say the perfect creation, as it is made for the most part by machine & man and then there is Murphy's Law. When there is a chance for something to go wrong it will. Third world artizens are few & far between, as their skills may not be up to par of the finest American & European craftsman. So accept it for what it is worth. Make a concession you will always get what you pay for period; nothing is for free &on the cheap today. Years ago way back in time I had Florschiem Imperials Wingtips that were built like a tank (were worn at least twice a week constantly with a polish every other week, resolded at leat 25 time and lasted a good 20 years - yes thats rite up till the day they died of the leather cracking). So yes the new ones are not the same as you will find this to apply to most everythiong today- it all comes down to cots & profit unfortuneatly. So for the most part we working class stiffs who are married & have kids have to live with a budget; so we buy what we need and hope Santa gets us what we desire and hope for in shoes when he can. So there you have it from a average Joe. I would love to have a pair of Aldens but they dont have EEE sizes from what I can see on their web sites. So I will stick to the Florsheims for now and for a dandy pair I will buy my first pair of AE this week to indulge. Dont be too harsh on the Florscheims they fill a need & price point for most of us!
     
  10. rosslovethreads

    rosslovethreads Senior member

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    Hey HRH, fck off.

    I bought the dumb Veblens in the wine colorway. They were decent. Clunkier than a lwb needs to be. They use horween for the uppers, so that was cool.

    You are all comparing apples to Ferraris.
     
  11. Man of Honor

    Man of Honor New Member

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    Sir
    You are not a gentlemen to say the least, if you think that you can just "off" people who think differently from you, you are mistaken. That man expressed an opinion; his albit; it may not be yours so express yourself as a gentlemen not an imbeccilic high school tuit, who has no touch of "Economic Reality". Do you have a family ? Everyone does the best he can with what cards are given to him (meaning $$$$) to spend on himself & others. So if you live alone (which I tend to believe) then you can spend to your hearts desire. People on a budget today (most of the US populace) and based on statistics are very carefull on what & where they spend. They tend to do the best they can; the best bang for buck. So take it for what it's worth either you are very wealthy (I hope for your sake so) or you are just a small self centered smart alek of a little man. Grow up pal..
     
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  12. bl@ster

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    Just picked up these new Florsheim Kenmoor's in Shell Cordovan "Scotch" colorway. I normally wouldn't buy a Made in India Florsheim Kenmoor for this much money (total came to 400 something bucks) but I was pretty curious about the "exotic" (read: lighter color) Horween shell that is so hard to find these days in Aldens. Overall, for the price they're Goodyear welted and I'm pretty pleased. Construction isn't half bad on them and the Horween Shell is gorgeous. Here are pics:

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  13. NWTeal

    NWTeal Senior member

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    @bl@ster gorgeous as always. How did you size in these compared to some AE lasts? I'm looking to replace my shell Macneils and these may fit the bill.

    How's the finishing and detail compared to AE as well?
     
  14. SuitedDx

    SuitedDx Senior member

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    I personally prefer the Alden LWB for the style but I would give the Florsheim's an edge over AE's; I just think the vamp is too short and the facings (or whatever you call the area where the eyelets are) are too large. AE does make for better quality with the JR soles though.
     
  15. bl@ster

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    Hey Teal. These fit TTS and comparable to most AE lasts (which also run TTS for me). Finishing is actually better than I expected. I'd put them on par with Allen Edmonds or maybe just a touch below. The footbed is actual leather (not fiberboard) which is great but also expected at this price point. BTW I also kopped the "Dark Cherry" Cordovan which is really gorgeous stuff -- here's pics:

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  16. NWTeal

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    Thanks @bl@ster. Looks like I have some choices to make. I think these have better shape and proportions than the MacNeil. The finish and stitching actually look better as well than when I got Macneils out of the box.
     
  17. tv2177

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    looks real nice. I would like to know where can I find them on sale!
     
  18. bl@ster

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    Being that they're shell, I wouldn't hold my breath for a sale. In fact, they're nearly sold out on the Florshey website.
     
  19. bl@ster

    bl@ster Senior member

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    At the risk of being the only one who seems to care about this subject... recently scored these vintage deadstock 1999 Florsheim shell gunboats on Ebay. Check em out:

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  20. miketheraven

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    Pardon the poor image quality.
    I just scooped these up from my local Burlington for what I gather was a steal. Based on the code (11416-605), it appears that these are the Dark Cherry flavor.
     

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