I have 40 years of experience and I disagree. Not the prettiest longwing I have ever seen, but I don't think they are ugly. I agree with you that the Alden is the best of the bunch. Then what the f*ck is your problem? I said I thought they were ugly. You don't disagree they are the worst of the three. Yet, you felt the need to lecture me on my age and arrogance for not liking the shoes more. You also accused me of snobbery for not giving aesthetic bonus points to a pair of shoes for being cheap. Ugly is ugly regardless of how much you pay. If we were talking about simple value or utility, it would be a different story. It sounds like you have an issue with me, not my opinion on a pair of ugly shoes. I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop on MBrenin. Will it be a cancelled subscription? He's been banned from mfanblog.blogspot.com. Effective as of two years ago.