Basic Tie Questions

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by BBdude, Apr 2, 2009.

  1. BBdude

    BBdude Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    81
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2008
    Curious question from a relative newb.

    I have quite a few ties. Mostly from JAB, CT, a few cheap Nautica ties, and I recently purchased some from Jim Thorpe ties while in Bangkok.

    1.)
    For some odd reason, each of my ties tie very differently. The JAB and Nautica ties tie the best (I use a full Windsor). Why in the world can't I get the others to look good? Granted, I'm very anal about how my ties look, but there shouldn't be something wrong with that [​IMG]

    The CT ties are much thicker (maybe it's a British thing?) so I have to tie them using a half Windsor which I don't especially like ... but even with a half Windsor the knot is almost too big.

    2.)
    Some of my ties are a bit wrinkled/twisted in the area around where the knot is tied. Also, some have a (noticeable) crease on the viewable portion of the tie when knotted from packing them in my suitcase. How can I get these creases/wrinkles out aside from dry cleaning the ties?

    Thanks in advance as always, gents!
     


  2. JacobJacob

    JacobJacob Senior member

    Messages:
    199
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2009
    2: Next time you take a long hot shower, hang the ties in the bathroom (not under the shower off course), and let them be for some time. This should stretch the wrinkles and twists out. If it doesn't help, do it again.
    You could also flatten the ties under a folded tea-towel and do some gentle ironing. Some might say this is damaging the ties, so don't do it too often nor over do it whilst at it. As said, do it gentle, show patience and remember to keep an eye on the tie and the towel and adjust them when you feel it is necessary.

    I have been lucky with both methods, but I recommend you try the first before ironing.

    Good luck.
     


  3. CharlesAlexander

    CharlesAlexander Senior member

    Messages:
    1,724
    Likes Received:
    6
    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2008
    Location:
    Soho, New York
    Thicker ties (like your CT) are really meant to be tied with smaller knots, like a half Windsor or a four in hand. If you prefer using the full Windsor, I'd suggest getting thinner ties. It's also all in how you tie your knot. Some people don't tighten their knots enough so the finished knot looks huge.

    As for the wrinkles you should NEVER send you tie to the dry cleaners. Either use the steamer setting on your iron (but never let the iron touch the tie!) or invest in a hand steamer. After steaming stretch the tie VERY gently vertically to help get it back to it's original shape. Also NEVER leave your ties knotted when your not wearing them. Always untie them properly before storing.

    [​IMG]
     


  4. BBdude

    BBdude Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    81
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2008
    Thicker ties (like your CT) are really meant to be tied with smaller knots, like a half Windsor or a four in hand. If you prefer using the full Windsor, I'd suggest getting thinner ties. It's also all in how you tie your knot. Some people don't tighten their knots enough so the finished knot look huge.

    As for the wrinkles NEVER send you tie to the dry cleaners. Either using the steamer setting on your iron (but never let the iron touch the tie!) or invest in a hand steamer. After steaming stretch the tie VERY gently vertically to help get it back to it's original shape. Also NEVER leave your ties knotted when your not wearing them. Always untie them properly before storing.

    [​IMG]


    Thank you both!

    Is there a proper way to untie a tie? Never heard of that!
     


  5. CharlesAlexander

    CharlesAlexander Senior member

    Messages:
    1,724
    Likes Received:
    6
    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2008
    Location:
    Soho, New York
    Thank you both!

    Is there a proper way to untie a tie? Never heard of that!


    Just untie it gently the way you tied it (going backwards).
     


  6. whiteslashasian

    whiteslashasian Senior member

    Messages:
    11,886
    Likes Received:
    1,926
    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2008
    Thicker ties (like your CT) are really meant to be tied with smaller knots, like a half Windsor or a four in hand. If you prefer using the full Windsor, I'd suggest getting thinner ties. It's also all in how you tie your knot. Some people don't tighten their knots enough so the finished knot look huge.

    As for the wrinkles NEVER send you tie to the dry cleaners. Either using the steamer setting on your iron (but never let the iron touch the tie!) or invest in a hand steamer. After steaming stretch the tie VERY gently vertically to help get it back to it's original shape. Also NEVER leave your ties knotted when your not wearing them. Always untie them properly before storing.

    [​IMG]


    Great advice Charles. This man knows his ties! [​IMG]
     


  7. Kaplan

    Kaplan Senior member

    Messages:
    4,198
    Likes Received:
    2,702
    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2008
    Location:
    In Hedonic Decline
    As for the wrinkles NEVER send you tie to the dry cleaners.

    I know you should avoid dry cleaning as much as possible, but what if you have spilled something on your tie?
     


  8. JacobJacob

    JacobJacob Senior member

    Messages:
    199
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2009
    Throw it out or use some lukewarm water and as little as possible/ mild detergent for dishwashing.
     


  9. Cas Ruffin

    Cas Ruffin Senior member

    Messages:
    664
    Likes Received:
    1
    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2009
    Location:
    Bay Area
    Thicker ties (like your CT) are really meant to be tied with smaller knots, like a half Windsor or a four in hand. If you prefer using the full Windsor, I'd suggest getting thinner ties. It's also all in how you tie your knot. Some people don't tighten their knots enough so the finished knot look huge.

    As for the wrinkles NEVER send you tie to the dry cleaners. Either using the steamer setting on your iron (but never let the iron touch the tie!) or invest in a hand steamer. After steaming stretch the tie VERY gently vertically to help get it back to it's original shape. Also NEVER leave your ties knotted when your not wearing them. Always untie them properly before storing.

    [​IMG]


    Yeah you should really get used to utilizing different knots for different ties. I remember Details talking about how Four-In-Hand is the only knot that you need to know, and I had a palm to forehead moment.
     


  10. CharlesAlexander

    CharlesAlexander Senior member

    Messages:
    1,724
    Likes Received:
    6
    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2008
    Location:
    Soho, New York
    I know you should avoid dry cleaning as much as possible, but what if you have spilled something on your tie?

    Don't spill anything on your tie. [​IMG]

    I've actually found that Tide sticks work pretty well for this depending on the size of the stain.
     


  11. zeta

    zeta Member

    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2009
    I removed a stain from a tie once by spot-cleaning it with rubbing alcohol, only dabbing at it lightly, and making sure it didn't soak in too much in by periodically drying it with a blower. Though there might have been a faint mark left afterwards, it didn't matter since the tie had a mottled pattern.
     


  12. Mr. Darcy

    Mr. Darcy Member

    Messages:
    22
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2008
    Location:
    North Carolina, USA
    Of the 13 ways to tie a tie, there is bound to be one you like that works well. You can find them all here: http://totieatie.com Hope this helps you some. The shower thing works great by the way, had to do one the other day.
     


  13. FIHTies

    FIHTies Senior member

    Messages:
    2,959
    Likes Received:
    4
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2004
    Location:
    Back and Better Than Before
    Of the 13 ways to tie a tie, there is bound to be one you like that works well.

    You can find them all here: http://totieatie.com

    Hope this helps you some. The shower thing works great by the way, had to do one the other day.


    Or for the other 72 ways try this
    [​IMG]
     


  14. BBdude

    BBdude Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    81
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2008
    Or for the other 72 ways try this
    [​IMG]


    I think the four-in-hand, full windsor, and half windsor will be enough for me right now! [​IMG]
     


  15. idfnl

    idfnl Senior member

    Messages:
    15,885
    Likes Received:
    1,014
    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2008
    Location:
    VA
    Just untie it gently the way you tied it (going backwards).

    Dont use my fathers favorite technique where he pulls and only lightens the torque up when he starts hearing threads snap. Good grief, I show the man, but he doesnt want to learn.
     


Share This Page

Styleforum is proudly sponsored by