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Basic Question About Men's Shirting Fabric, Please . . .

uluvbs

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Assuming the same grade of cotton is used, how can one fabric be

Weight: 100gms/sq.mt
Yarn: 2/140's x 2/140's

and then another fabric be

Weight: 85gms/sq.mt
Yarn: 2/160's x 2/160's


Wouldn't the higher thread count (assuming all else is equal) result in a heavier fabric, or what am I missing/forgetting?
 

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If I am not misundertanding the question, the weight on two same fabric is only affected by the indeed weight of each ones.

The count thread only affects to the caliber of the thread used.

I think you meant if the fabric is too dense, that depends on the weaving, independently on the weight.

Example, Thomas Mason/ Albini 200/2 feel way more compacted than per example a Grandi & Rubinelli 200/2 that feels more vaporous, both having the same weight and I am pretty sure, the same raw cotton used to woven the bobins.

Here the weaving and finishing ( adding polymeres “ petrol/plastic” derivates and amoniacal and chemicals ) is one of the keys.


Normally, the higher the thread count, the softer and lighter the fabrics are.
 
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I guess what I'm asking is:

The 2/160s has MORE cotton threads in it, right? In other words, higher thread count = more cotton, no?

If so, how could the weight of a 2/160s fabric be LESS than the weight of a 2/140s fabric? (Both apparently use Giza 45 cotton - i.e., same grade)
 

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I guess what I'm asking is:

The 2/160s has MORE cotton threads in it, right? In other words, higher thread count = more cotton, no?

If so, how could the weight of a 2/160s fabric be LESS than the weight of a 2/140s fabric? (Both apparently use Giza 45 cotton - i.e., same grade)

No,no.

Higher thread count actually means that the caliber of the threads used to weave is higher,( higher,usually is thiner, softer,more expensive). But not that has more threads woven on it that technically I think is called ends per picks, number of threads on each side I think ( this also measures how compact is the fabric)

On your question; higher thread count = more cotton, no? Not necesarely since the higher count threads do weight less, due to are thiner, so they put more threads on the weaving to balance this.

On a rule of thumb but not necesarely,, as higher the count, softer is the fabric, ligher in weight etc.

Yes, all this is complicated and the human logic gives mistakes on the contrary to what we all would expect.
 
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I guess what I'm asking is:

The 2/160s has MORE cotton threads in it, right? In other words, higher thread count = more cotton, no?

If so, how could the weight of a 2/160s fabric be LESS than the weight of a 2/140s fabric? (Both apparently use Giza 45 cotton - i.e., same grade)


Because the 160 threads are thinner, so the volume of that fabric will be less for the same surface.
 

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