Also, I know these are made in America, but what does that really mean? Couldn't they be hiring unskilled Mexican's (not that they are) to do the sewing / construction? I guess this question goes for all made in America clothing. It doesn't mean much other than that they've made a commitment to manufacturing in America -- which should be commended but, really doesn't speak to the quality of the garment. I was just joking around because whenever there's a "debate" on here about this brand, rather than supporters just saying "I like their style and fit, I don't really care what it costs" people defend the brand like they work there for being "Made In the USA" as if it was made in Ethiopia and still fit and was marketed the same, they wouldn't still hand over their cash for it. ...and I like BoO. I have many of their shirts and have paid retail every time.