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Baddest Ass in Men's Fashion..Nick Wooster

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by 951socal, Apr 25, 2011.

  1. Navi

    Navi Senior member

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    I think it'd look awesome with a different shirt, different, longer pants and a normal pair of shoes. But that's just me. Jacket is sweet.
     
  2. Pennglock

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    Is he rocking the infamous "triple tweed?"
     
  3. Don Carlos

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    The picture is funny, becsuse the longer you stare at it, the more random "just wrong" details you notice about it: the pants length, the shoes, the tux stripe on the pants, and so forth. It's like a puzzle, almost. If I stare at it long enough, eventually I'll find out he's wearing a thong or something.
     
  4. Blackhood

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    4 types of tweed in one outfit?!

    Brouge boots with a white rubber sole?
     
  5. rach2jlc

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    The picture is funny, becsuse the longer you stare at it, the more random "just wrong" details you notice about it: the pants length, the shoes, the tux stripe on the pants, and so forth. It's like a puzzle, almost. If I stare at it long enough, eventually I'll find out he's wearing a thong or something.
    This. The almost comical hyper-masculinity on display here goes so over the top that it becomes less a style of dress, less an aesthetic of "manliness," and instead a not-particularly-convincing Kabuki performance. It's less a personal set of items worn to fit specific needs/interests, and instead an affectation. Everything from the hair to the gaze to the specific to-the-millimeter size of his goofy cuffs. He went to a LOT of trouble to look like he has no idea how to dress. Well, he succeeded, though not as intended. After six, no doubt he dons his leather chaps and biker cap, waxes his moustache, and lubes up for a lovely romp down at "The Manhole." Now, more power to him, as obviously romping with the boys is not something to which I'm opposed... but I hate affectation, and I hate the "role playing" that a lot of gay men of a certain age tend to do, while thinking that they're really just starting a trend and SO original. Unfortunately, a lot of impressionable young twinkies eat that up. Blech.
     
  6. Don Carlos

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    ^^

    In a strange way, the same could be said for a lot of the beard-wearing, tweed-and-corduroy-sporting, turn-of-the-century-Americana-obsessed hipsters out there. Basically, all the guys who look like they walked straight off the pages of a Billy Reid catalog.

    The look was vaguely interesting when it first surfaced, but repeated exposure has cast new light on the extreme affectation of it all.
     
  7. rach2jlc

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    ^^ In a strange way, the same could be said for a lot of the beard-wearing, tweed-and-corduroy-sporting, turn-of-the-century-Americana-obsessed hipsters out there. Basically, all the guys who look like they walked straight off the pages of a Billy Reid catalog.
    Agreed, absolutely. And those dweebs are plastered, like so many tattered posters of Cadinot films, all over the interwebz, each trying to out-affect the other. I blame it largely on NYC, which has such a narcissistic and self-feeding view of itself as the center of the universe that small groups of styleless clones outfit their tiny bubble-worlds with nobody but themselves, and use the proceeds gathered from selling the Saab mummzy and diddles gave them to start a "zine" featuring only themselves and their ilk. Gay NYers, denizens of the Fire Island and the seventeen-layered Tweed Abortion with fruity orange lapel pin, think that they are the only ones who matter, and the ones setting the agenda for everybody else. They're not, and largely the rest of the world laughs at them. Same with the hipster crap. These kids all need to take a trip to harajuku, to see how crazy dress can be fun, and not a cloned, affected slop bucket filled with rendered hog fat.
     
  8. Fuuma

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    I'm SO sick of seeing this man, and hearing how "amazing" and "bad ass" he is. give me a break. He looks affected, exaggerated, and poofty. And not 'good' poofty like yours truly, but bad poofty, like he's just trying to hard, as though he needs a monocle, a peacock feather, and to exaggerate all of his "ah" sounds, even though he's born in Cleveland (or wherever) Effortlessness in fashion certainly has an element of twisting the rules; this guy looks like he gets up and tries REALLY REALLY REALLY hard, and just comes off (IMHO) looking like a clown.
    I dunno, I think his outfit looks great. Keep in mind I think their buy is barf-worthy and never set foot in NM. He's pretty much always wearing full Thom Browne in the runway-way and this is no exception (aside from the boots?). It's not like he is more spazzatured than Luca Rubitnaughty, Lapo or even the english social parasite with the distressed shoes married to the chick on pound notes. He mixes the grey shades and fabrics really well and I'm not even pissed at his Americana haircut, ridiculous on another man facial hair and clown urban lumberjack boots. Of course I'm like Diane "married to fashion" Pernet, I have a soft spot for the fashion freaks.
     
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    ^^ In a strange way, the same could be said for a lot of the beard-wearing, tweed-and-corduroy-sporting, turn-of-the-century-Americana-obsessed hipsters out there. Basically, all the guys who look like they walked straight off the pages of a Billy Reid catalog. The look was vaguely interesting when it first surfaced, but repeated exposure has cast new light on the extreme affectation of it all.
    Or the pocket square wearing, 60s worshipping, bespoked office workers on SF? Yeah... Who the fuck wears brown shoes and horseblanket jackets if not little cosplayers?
     
  10. rach2jlc

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    I dunno, I think his outfit looks great. Keep in mind I think their buy is barf-worthy and never set foot in NM. He's pretty much always wearing full Thom Browne in the runway-way and this is no exceptions (aside from the boots?). It's not like he is more spazzatured than Luca Rubitnaughty, Lapo or even the english social parasite with the distressed shoes married to the chick on pound notes.
    We've discussed this kind of fashion-y stuff in the past, fuuuuma mon ami, and I think my view largely has stayed the same. I've got no issue with the mixing up of styles, but, I think there has to be an element of fun involved, or that you really enjoy what you wear, and that it comes naturally and just sort of "happens." Yohji, for instance. i think he just probably amazes himself sometimes what he comes up with. This guy, and many like this, seem to try SOOO hard. Think of your Japanese friends... I mean, sometimes mine show up wearing four different outfits, mixed together, one of which is the bottom half of his grandmother's kimono... and it looks so neat. So, it's not a "purist" sense that makes me nauseous to see this Wooster-dude, but just the affectation. even down to the goofy cigarette. I mean, when you smoke, you smoke. This guy smokes because he's "supposed" to smoke. You can tell. [​IMG] edit; besides, everybody knows the baddest ass in men's fashion is Andre Leon Talley. He's a 6'5" 400 pound unabashedly queeny black man who walks around in hoodies, cashmere pants, and a full lion's pelt, or a silk dressing gown, sable hat, and a necklace made of shark's teeth. Now THAT man has fun with what he wears.
     
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    We've discussed this kind of fashion-y stuff in the past, fuuuuma mon ami, and I think my view largely has stayed the same. I've got no issue with the mixing up of styles, but, I think there has to be an element of fun involved, or that you really enjoy what you wear, and that it comes naturally and just sort of "happens." Yohji, for instance. i think he just probably amazes himself sometimes what he comes up with. This guy, and many like this, seem to try SOOO hard. Think of your Japanese friends... I mean, sometimes mine show up wearing four different outfits, mixed together, one of which is the bottom half of his grandmother's kimono... and it looks so neat. So, it's not a "purist" sense that makes me nauseous to see this Wooster-dude, but just the affectation. even down to the goofy cigarette. I mean, when you smoke, you smoke. This guy smokes because he's "supposed" to smoke. You can tell. [​IMG]
    Well before/after fashion shows EVERYONE smokes. If you bring your kid or a dog you are obligated by la chambre syndicale de haute couture to give them a Gauloise. As you already know I'm not into those retro/americana looks because they, consciously or not, come from awfully restrictive heteronormative discourses regarding the nature of masculinity and give wearers a false sense of regaining something they were pressured into thinking was lost by enjoying more adventurous modes of dressing and living, I am, as a straight dude, of course concerned with not going in that direction as it is as much a prison as a security blanket. Masculinity as a restricted set of variables not really worth their salt anyway and that trying to break out of was something fashion helped people do. It's funny when an old queen does it though, can't help thinking he knows and is throwing it in their faces the same way he'd do if he was wearing a policeman costume. Maybe it is a little bit outdated though as it seems awfully reactive and about mirroring something he should simply be content not reproducing.
     
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    I'm curious how many interesting thoughts and sketches his artist field notebooks aren't filled with.
     
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    Who the fuck wears brown shoes and horseblanket jackets if not little cosplayers?

    Me. Or am I covered in that remark?
     
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    he looks fantastic IMO and 108% better than almost any poster on here. Reminds me of phil crangi

    I dunno, I think his outfit looks great. Keep in mind I think their buy is barf-worthy and never set foot in NM. He's pretty much always wearing full Thom Browne in the runway-way and this is no exception (aside from the boots?). It's not like he is more spazzatured than Luca Rubitnaughty, Lapo or even the english social parasite with the distressed shoes married to the chick on pound notes.

    He mixes the grey shades and fabrics really well and I'm not even pissed at his Americana haircut, ridiculous on another man facial hair and clown urban lumberjack boots. Of course I'm like Diane "married to fashion" Pernet, I have a soft spot for the fashion freaks.
     
  15. rach2jlc

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    he looks fantastic IMO and 108% better than almost any poster on here. Reminds me of phil crangi

    Oh, Crangi is prime example numero DOS of everything I've been talking about. When it takes you four hours per day and about $25,000 in chemicals, creams, and surgeries to look "like a badass who doesn't give a fuck," something is wrong.
     
  16. StephenHero

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    Which is worse:

    trying really really hard and looking like you're trying really really hard

    or

    trying really really hard to look like you not trying at all, but still looking like you tried really really hard

    ?

    If you're going to give the impression that you try really really hard, I think it's probably better to fail on the side of explicit theatricality.
     
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    Me. Or am I covered in that remark?

    You are but I wasn't really trying to insult your ilk but tell don carlos that trying to deride a bunch of people because they are wearing costume is stupid as everything is.
     
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    Haven't read the thread but guessing the consensus is 75/25 that Wooster is a fucking clown. Hope so at least.
     
  19. Fuuma

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    Haven't read the thread but guessing the consensus is 75/25 that Wooster is a fucking clown. Hope so at least.
    Givenchy did a collection with Juggalo influences and you think people should be shocked by some fantasy retro-styling, mixing of greys and variation in suiting lenght? Please, dislike it all you like but this shit isn't that out there or clownesque.
     
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    Givenchy did a collection with Juggalo influences and you think people should be shocked by some fantasy retro-styling, mixing of greys and variation in suiting lenght? Please, dislike it all you like but this shit isn't that out there or clownesque.
    I think it isn't the clothing as much as the "aura" given off by the dude wearing it. I mean, if we're talking fashion, that's one thing, but I think the irritation (at least mine, I can say) is "holistic" in nature. The clothes in a different setting might not seem as "clownish" as when they're being worn by Wooster. It's like somebody playing at dress up.
     

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