Hello all, I'm looking for a backless black tie waistcoat. You used to be able to get these everywhere but I can't find any RTW ones anywhere. This one: Is RLPL and the only RTW one I've seen. Does anywhere know where else might have them? Alternatively, evening wear waistcoats in general (fully lined, non-backless)? Full dress white marcella waistcoats seem to be in abundance but the only places selling black evening waistcoats seem to be Ede & Ravenscroft and Oliver Brown. Failing finding a black evening waistcoat, what do you think of white full dress waistcoats with black tie? Apparently they were preferred once upon a time but strike me as a bit antiquated now. If they are acceptable then I'm supposing white studs rather than black with the shirt? Full dress waistcoats introduce a potential patternation difficulty of marcella on marcella when being worn with marcella turndown shirts. I wonder if perhaps they best coupled with either full-dress boiled shirts or fly fronted turndown shirts? In any case your comments would be much appreciated.