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Average arm scye measurement of shirt?


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Dec 26, 2008
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I typically wear a 15.5 to 16 collar shirt and if I remember correctly, the average arm scye measurement on most OTR shirts is somewhere around 9-10". Typically this leaves the armholes/upper sleeves rather blousy. I am not an especially thin guy, pretty average to slightly slim size, at about 6'1 180-185 lbs. 42 chest, 35 waist. I have had MTM shirts made before by Brooks Brothers, Hemrajani Brothers (MyTailor), and Robert Talbott. I asked Brooks Brothers to reduce the armhole measurement by an inch and it seems to be a lot more comfortable. I am trying to remember the arm scye measurements of the shirts, I think the Brooks Brothers MTM (had to request a smaller upper sleeve/armhole) was 8.5, Hemrajani was 9.5, and Robert Talbott at 9.

My question is why do most manufacturers seem to default towards a blousier upper sleeve/armhole when a slightly trimmer sleeve seems to give so much more mobility? I realize that companies must make the shirt able to fit the majority of customers when no special request for upper sleeve width is made, but realistically, does anybody in a 15.5 collar really require a 9.5" arm scye? That's an opening that's 19" in circumference. Since a more tailored sleeve is preferred here from what I am reading, what do you typically request in your made to measure shirts? And for those with trim upper sleeves/armholes, have you noticed any real problems with having the trimmer sleeve? I have not worn my MTM shirts enough times to really investigate this. Someone told me that a trimmer upper sleeve and armhole would make it less mobile and more prone to blowing out at the seam. Is there any merit to this statement? From my experience, it seems less likely since the fabric doesn't feel as if it's pulling. Does a generous cut (that is advertised by some manufacturers as a luxury) have any practical benefits to someone who does not require it sizewise?

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