Austro-Hungarian school of shoemaking

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  1. fritzl

    fritzl Senior member

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    - i almost forgot about this. good to bring it back. also for me, it was slightly overdone. honestly, it is more difficult as it seems. it also needs a lot of trust in the person in charge.

    - yes, i agree. that's why i mentioned it in the context with ishis pair. well, i know he loves them that way. my statement was meant of what is possible.

    i also know, that i'm a lucky bastard that i always had this skillful persons on call. imo, it helps, if you can discuss things like that in person.
     


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    I dont quite get the trees ..IMO other than the 2ndfrom the right the fit seems odd.
     
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    fritzl Senior member

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    thoroughly possible. actually, i do not see the same as you do. some of the possible reasons. insole is removed, i grabbed some trees for the photoshoot, i tried a pair of trees to see how it fits etc., etc. having a certain number of shoes isn't a static situation. anyway.

    if you don't mind, i appreciate if you elaborate your observations. i'm always open for opnions to improve the status.
     


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    I will try, considering they are Bespoke shoes I would expect they come with lasted trees making them a a snug fit..

    In my opinion the from left the vamp seems to be lifted more that it should be, the next two the opening seems to be stretched a tad more resulting in some gaps and the fourth the vamp seems to be creasing up. Again , these are from the pictures that I see....
     


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    not necessarily in hungary. it's always an option with all makers around the world(rule of thumb), at least three piece. i agree, that most people take advantage of it. anyway


    note to myself. don't picture things, which aren't in a perfect status. i shouldn't picture things, which are in the works. lesson learned.
     


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    Point taken, somehow not sure why I had this mistaken notion that bespoke shoes always come with trees....
     


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    in any case, we'll check your pictures after a few years of extensive wear... ...and compare it when new?
     


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    I also posted this in the Vass thread, this pair is my favorite for the office right now. Very versatile, I wear them with all color trousers except black. The P2 last is very special I think, looks very good & elegant on the feet, like a combination of traditional and modern.

    The medallion also look somewhat close to the brogueing and ends a little high on the toe.

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    i like your way of structured thinking. i cannot do all things shoes like a checklist, though. there are too many variations in the game and i'm far from the point to have them all discovered.
     


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    These are fan-tas-tic!
     


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    much appreciated. they now belong to fellow member itsstillmatt: Hey Gerd, They arrived .... Beautiful shoes, and the fit is spot on.
     


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    it's been a while i've been to vass, u, f and p2 haven't been on the stage yet.

    long story short:

    i went to budapest over the weekend with three friends and we had a blast. i should do a write up. fond memories. the vass book was hot and fresh and we were obsessed with the idea of a bespoke pair from vass. two ouf us had a little experience in the field. the person in charge had his day off and one of us ended up with a pair of half brogue oxfords in tan. the rest is history...
     


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    My next shoe is going to be a Norweger for sure!...cheers
     


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    Ok, Me too but it have to be identical to that one, nothing less.
     


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    Can you explain this. These are handwelted ( I presume) so that the insole is securely stitched to upper, welt, etc, which means that it cannot be removed (without destroying the shoe)? Is the footbed just the heel liner? but that is very thin
     


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