Thanks, Plestor. Soon, I will be getting a pair of trousers with side adjusters and I have also asked for brace buttons to be included. The clip on style don't appeal to me. Thanks for the suggestion about Thurston braces. There also seem to be a number of them on ebay at a reasonable price. I like the idea of banishing belts from the wardrobe. Are you having the belt loops taken off all your trousers that you will use for braces? My preference is leaning towards side adjusters and brace buttons instead of belt loops for my flannels and suit trousers.