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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by earthdragon, Nov 18, 2008.

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  1. Prof. B. Bear

    Prof. B. Bear Senior member

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    MJ Bale has a good reputation. Good fabric and most of their suits are half canvassed IIRC. As for Arthur Galan I'm not too sure. I know their 'casual' suiting which DJ stocks is all fused.
     
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    Very, very helpful. Thanks Fox.
     
  3. Petepan

    Petepan Senior member

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    I visited MJ Bale over the weekend at Bondi Junction.

    They have some fully canvassed suits. Okay to good fabric but nothing fantastic, good fit, nice work on the suits.

    Problem: they want $1500 for two suits, or $890 for one. Plus they are made in China mostly (with some Japan lines, did not ask about pricing).

    IMO, not value for money, unless you get them at sales.
     
  4. Henry Carter

    Henry Carter Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    They also have a 2 for $1000 deal on some basics which is what we bought for the wedding. What most OTR places in Australia make the mistake of doing on their more expensive OTR suits (Herringbone are bad at this) is making them out of very thin, high super count materials which in turn feel very nice, but hold a crease like crap and generally wear out quicker. The dark grey I got is a mid weight around prob 11-12 oz and seems to sit decently in the middle. I think it's called the Mudgee.

    Time will tell though I guess after a bit of wear. But I've been inspecting my brothers one that's been hanging in the closet for the last few weeks and it seems very well made.
     
  5. Prof. B. Bear

    Prof. B. Bear Senior member

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    Like the vast majority of Australian retail goods I would never buy them at full price, but as Charlie said 2 for $1000 isn't bad considering brands like Studio Italia and Domingo by Dom Bagnato are $500, fused, made in China and use generally 'meh' fabrics.
     
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    Totally agree. Anything over super120s are really fragile, and the creasing is ridiculous (especially the cat whisker creases on the crotch area). My ex-tailor did not bother to tell me this and happily looked away when I chose my fabric by touch and feel. Two orphaned jackets later (both pants had split crotch within 2 years) and I am looking for a new tailor.
     
  7. modafroman

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    Hrm, alright, thanks guys :)

    I might head to DJs and suss out the loakes sizing.

    But I still am interested in the meermins, ends up being ~$230 shipped? (150euro + 40euro shipping?)

    Think i'll go for a brown or black pair to wear with my suits, like the loake aldwych...

    but what about for more casually/going out clubbing/bars etc? I'd like something pretty cheap considering they're going to get trashed fairly quickly haha.... maybe just a cheapy pair of suedes? or something? Not sure.
     
  8. The Ernesto

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    Good posts about fabric weight. Retailers really play on people's ignorance about the high numbers. There should be a caveat 'If you buy this suit it will feel lovely to the touch but you can only wear it six times a year.'
     
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    LOL!

    i usually go for a mid 200gram fabric on my suits. getting to 300g gets a tad warm (unless the weave is quite open) and 200 and below gets on the cat-whisker territory lol
     
  10. Dusty Brogues

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    Great feedback Gents!
    I saw the MJ Bale Bale 2 for $1000 and l thought I represented a decent buy!
    Mind iv only seen their collection online,nice lapels mind you.
    Brisbane folk, Richards and Richards have a decent sale. Saw a pair of Sutor Mantellassi reduced to 500. It appears most punters North of the border are getting their shoes online???
     
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    you're welcome. I have so far resisted the temptation. too many other things needed.

    hope your CS experience with them is as good as mine has been, the best by which I measure all others.
     
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    I'd like something pretty cheap considering they're going to get trashed fairly quickly haha.... maybe just a cheapy pair of suedes?

    Sorry, can't help you there. The focus here is mainly on high quality goods that last irregardless of fashion cycle. Does not necessarily have to be expensive, but quality and longevity are usually required.
     
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  14. The Ernesto

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    Thanks BM, was trying to remember where I had read that!
     
  15. modafroman

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    Fair call.

    I wasn't really asking in terms of brands/where to get, more in terms of what styles/look would work for more casual outings? Where i'm just going to be wearing jeans and a shirt, as opposed to a suit.
     
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    Supers number =!= weight =!= durability... RTW generally has terrible fabric selections as you've noticed.

    Romp, that's very light and would drive me mad.

    (There are few factually dubious statement's in ethan's blog post btw).
     
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    And very 'meh' fits IMO...

    I don't have an issue with made in China as long as the quality is there.
     
  18. tobiasj

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    Clarks?

    thesilentist.com/post/29057739413/investment-pieces-clarks-desert-chukka-boots

    Clarks Originals suede desert boots ($128.49; www.asos.com/Clarks-Originals/Clarks-Originals-Suede-Desert-Boots/Prod/pgeproduct.aspx?iid=905874)
     
  19. modafroman

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    Yea maybe, i'm not sure if I like desert boots/if I can pull them off though? I was thinking more along the lines of a derby/oxford style tho, maybe? I dunno, I guess I should go and have a look at what DJs and co have and see what works.
     
  20. Petepan

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    I am not answering because my clubbin days are way behind me.

    But seriously, I think these look good with jeans:

    1. Suede brogues, suede chukkas, suede monks, suede wholecuts;
    2. Loafers, with no socks;
    3. Lace up brogue derbies, calf or cordovan;
    4. Work boots in normal, oiled or distressed leather eg Red Wing, Wolverine, Chippewa (btw I hate RM Williams);
    5. Split toe leather shoes;
    6. Two tone spectators;
    7. Leather sneakers;
    8. Canvas sneakers.

    Heck, do you want me to go on?
     
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