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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by earthdragon, Nov 18, 2008.

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  1. Prince of Paisley

    Prince of Paisley Senior member

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    I think the key difference here is that HB is basically re-selling a foriegn brand at an inflated price. This not only allows consumers to find the exact same thing online for half that price, it encourages this behaviour.

    Where Australian retailers sell their own designed, sourced and branded items (alas, generally never "made" as well), it becomes much harder (read: impossible) to look online for the same thing to get it cheaper. The proposition then simply becomes "will I pay $xx for this nice jacket?", not "will I get this for half price online?".

    In the former case I would pay $800 for the right RTW jacket, sure, assuming the quality and fit justified it in my mind. In the second case, I think you'd be pretty foolish to pay significantly above the odds to a capitalist - whether he be local or not - for something that is clearly worth a lot less than what you would be paying for it.
     


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  3. budgiesmuggler

    budgiesmuggler Well-Known Member

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    Dudes the Internet is here to stay and those companies like HB who don't adapt will die. There is no reason why they can't turn to the Internet and compete on a global basis. I see no shame in supporting innovative business which provides the same service cheaper.

    Maybe they need to do something about the wholesale costs, or move to different products. But it is no different to what other companies are facing and unless they get with it they will lose business.
     


  4. budgiesmuggler

    budgiesmuggler Well-Known Member

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    If you're looking for a quality cheap suit, TM Lewin have just launched at myer. 30% off their suits for the next few weeks, which is about $250 for a full canvessed suit.

    Not my thing but I recommend their gear, it's quality. Not many companies make shirts with floating collars and cuffs and these guys do it and keep costs down.
     


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    That list of online stores from Pink Socks should be stickied btw.

    Also, Yoox takes absolutely terrible product shots. Stop butchering the 3-roll-2 blazers!
     
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    Their suits are great value basics on sale, at least have been online, but as far as I know they're half canvassed, not full (I have two of them).
     


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    Duly noted - TBH I rarely shop or even browse at American Tailors as they seem a bit aloof and disinterested, even when I am suited. So, given the choice of purchasing C&J from Herringbone or AT at the same price, I would chose the former.
     
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    Henry Buck's is one of those organisations failing to adapt to the combined affects of online-shopping and a strengthening dollar. Their client base is probably someone conservative in their 50's who probably doesn't use the internet for shopping, isn't fashion-forward, and is a creature of habit with their purchases. However, those days are evaporating fast, i want to support them, but their costs just don't make sense, at least Harrolds has proper air-conditioning [​IMG]

    BTW, will Henry Bucks have further discounts or do they typically lock in a reduction rate and stick to it ?
     


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  10. Pink Socks

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    42 down to 38 is a big step, and probably not worth it for that suit. Maybe take your cash to Azzaro and have a look at the Enrico Coveri suits currently going for 250.
     


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    One of the things you need to understand here in Australia is that if our farmers (honest proper real genuine hardworking dinky di aussies), or miners ((honest proper real genuine hardworking dinky di aussies) or car workers (honest proper real genuine hardworking dinky di aussies) manages to produce something cheaper, at better quality and give better service and thereby undercut nasty un-australian overseas producers (say Canadian miners, USA wheat farmers, everyone wool producers, USA car workers) then that is A GOOD THING. Not only is it a good thing - it is patriotically Australian to sell oz goods cheaper and better to any overseas country.

    On the other hand.
    If some overseas country (nasty non australians who can't work properly like us) manage to produce some goods cheaper, better and offer better service than us (like clothes, cars, food, TVs, computers) then that is very very nasty underhand competition or dumping and is not only unfair to the true australian hard workers ( farmers etc etc) but it is every australian's duty to not buy things that are better and cheaper from overseas.

    In this we are to be lead by our heros:
    1= Dick Smith, who made his millions by importing cheaper and better overseas electronics and undercutting all the small australian electronics stores and distributors and also putting the great Australian company AWA out of business. Dick now makes bad tasting knockoff s of Australian food spreads and biscuits and charges us extra for them. Dick is now opposed to anyone else building a business by better and cheaper imports.

    2= Gerry Harvey. Good old Gerry now makes very little sense. But when he could put a few words together he was urging us to not buy cheaper and better on the nasty un- Australian Internet. He also deplores cheap and better and more reliable imported goods made by Chinese in particular. Gerry urges us to support local Australian stores like his. Gerry never mentions that he built his fortune on building big sheds of stores with no service, that sold imported TVs, fridges, washing machines, couches etc, and put an end to the thousands of small family owned white goods and furniture and electronics stores in each suburb and country town. Gerry never mentions that there is hardly anything at all Australian made in his stores. He buys it all from overseas. Perhaps even by that nasty Internet?

    St Dick and St Gerry are given many many hours of free media space, even on the ABC, and an easy ride by reporters, in order to advertise their businesses and spruik their self serving nonsense.

    Its a funny old world isn't it.
     
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  13. Journeyman

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    Definitely not worth it. Not even worth it if it were a Borrelli suit, and most definitely not worth if it is a cheap brand.

    Sell it or give it away and buy a new suit in a size that fits you well. Buying a well-fitting suit in will always - always - be better than having one that is two sizes too large dramatically altered to fit.

    Shortening the "skirt" of the jacket isn't much of a job - although you can only take it up by 4-5cm at the very, very most in most cases otherwise the pockets will look too low - but taking in the shoulders is a big, complex job that most places would charge $180 to $200 alone to do. Combine that with all the other bits and pieces that need to be done and it is simply throwing cash away that could be much better used to buy a suit in the right size.

    Hope that doesn't sound too forceful, but I'd much rather you used the money to buy a new suit that fits well and then just have the sleeves and trouser length adjusted.
     


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    Just re-affirmed my decision to buy another suit! Thanks
     


  15. budgiesmuggler

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    The demo one in myer was full canvassed IIR.
     


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