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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by earthdragon, Nov 18, 2008.

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  1. Pink Socks

    Pink Socks Senior member

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    Suppose, hypothetically speaking, you were to visit the Henry Bucks sale and tried on a few Boglioli unstructured jackets that fitted you very well for Off the Rack and looked and felt very good, and though they were very nice and you were tempted you decided $800 or more was too much to spend on an jacket that was not MTM and that you did not necessarily need (or where not thinking about getting for a while).

    Then, hypothetically speaking, you were just browsing online as you liked the jackets and wanted to know more, get peoples experiences of the brands and see more options and photographs. Then, hypothetically speaking, you might be tempted by the prices available, which were less than half price (including delivery) of the sale items in Henry Bucks (see links below).

    http://www.kafka.co.uk/sale/Boglioli_0_413_0_de_c.html

    http://www.kafka.co.uk/browse/Boglioli_0_413_0_de_c.html

    http://www.flannelsfashion.com/designers/men/boglioli/boglioli-sale.aspx

    http://www.flannelsfashion.com/designers/men/boglioli/boglioli-new-season.aspx

    http://www.yoox.com/YOOX/BOGLIOLI/m...dAuthor=&size=&spr_code=&textSearch=&last=ipp

    http://www.yoox.com/searchresult.as...dAuthor=&size=&spr_code=&textSearch=&last=ipp

    http://www.fransboonestore.com/en/catalogsearch/result/?q=boglioli

    What then if you, "hypothetically speaking", bought one as your size was available and cheap (ish - based on what you have seen and read) - http://www.flannelsfashion.com/designers/men/boglioli/boglioli-sale/boglioli-sale-details/i/14144-b1 . Should you then feel guilty for using Henry Bucks as a "try on" service and not supporting Australian business or lament that you you are priced out by the Australian retailer. It kind of upsets me when one of the main reasons I started to think about a Boglioli jacket, or even buying a blazer now, instead say in 6 months when back in the UK, was that I saw it in Henry Bucks, but buying it for double the price just seems ridiculous. 10% price up maybe but not 50% (especially when that is literally hundreds of dollars - not small change, even in Prince of Paisley's book ).

    Anyway, just in case anyone else, hypothetically, have visited Henry Bucks and had the same thoughts. Hope it turns out well and I am not hit by some sartorial karma.
     


  2. Pink Socks

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    Why did you have to write this while I was writing my post above?Agree about Herringbone, Henry Bucks, American Tailors etc being a good place to look and get ideas and even make purchases to keep jobs/business going here and have places to see good menswear (unlike Myer, Daivd jones, Arthur Galan etc).

    I will justify it by telling myself that as a British citizen it is my job to help the economic troubles there and by buying from a British site I am doing my national service.
     
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  3. ColdEyedPugilist

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    Yeah, saw those; should have picked up a few, but I've spent too much already...
     


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    Pink Socks, Bad karma indeed. :D

    I think that Herringbone generally offers far better value than HB etc, although I find their shirt prices a bit OTT for RTW.

    If it makes you feel better I have been doing my bit for the British economy too, especially that part of the Midlands known as Northampton.
     
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  5. streetminimal

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    In a bit of a dilemma here...maybe someone can give me some advice

    I got quoted around $250-300 form Katrinas to get my 42R suit sized down to a 38R which includes fixing the shoulders, tapering the sleeves and taking the waist in (without adjusting the length of the jacket which I think needs to be done (which is probably a mammoth task)). On top of that it's $50 to alter the pants (waist taken in, tapering of the legs and hemming). Now looking at it from an economics point of view, it would be cheaper to do this than to get a new 38R suit from say...Herringbone for $900.

    The suit that I'm considering fixing up was $500 when I bought it. It's some no name Daniel Hechter brand. Should I consider saving it?
     


  6. Pink Socks

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    Hope not...


    Tempted to this too... and then I better find a nice Scottish brand for something, though I will be helping the economy by getting married there in July.
     


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    I have had good experiences using Katrinas for alterations over the past few years, which have included some larger jobs. The quote does not strike me as unreasonable given what you are requesting. However, there is no way that I would ask an alterations tailor to resize a suit down two whole sizes. Too risky and I suspect you will not be 100% happy with the outcome. Flog the suit (or give to charity) and buy a new one. Bite the bullet.
     


  8. I am DIL

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    Well played, Socks. Well played. I vote not guilty on all counts.
     


  9. Pink Socks

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    Thank you.
     


  10. The Ernesto

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    Holy mother of God, Pink Socks. Thanks for putting a whole bunch of temptingly priced nice clothing in front of me. Must resist....
     


  11. Pink Socks

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    Sorry. That is what happen to me when I started looking at Boglioli online. Will stick with P Johnson Tailors for most things, slowly, slowly, but broke to the temptation on this (probably not a bad thing, good fit, reasonable price, will have much use for a more casual unstructured navy blazer).

    Be strong, but keep us informed if you break...
     


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    I can see your dilemma. But IMO, HB's markups are quite exorbitant. Though they may argue that this is the only way they can survive, due to lower volume of sales, I am strongly in support of the "adapt or die" mentality and cannot in good conscience condone the high mark ups they are currently charging. I do not expect them to match online prices, but I also cannot see why as a retailer who buys at wholesale prices from suppliers, they somehow see fit to charge twice the amount of recommended retail prices offered in brick and mortar stores overseas. Not to mention the savings they would have had from the strong Aussie dollar these past few years which, by most accounts, they have failed to pass on to their customers.

    I second the not guilty verdict.
     
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  13. The Ernesto

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    I hear you. Was very tempted by a Hackett suit at HB on sale but it was still massively over priced.

    That 'Flannels' website looks interesting.
     


  14. Pink Socks

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    Australian Members SFers make the best sartorial lawyers.


    Will let you know how it works out.
     
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    I'm curious as to how American Tailors has been lumped into the 'Henry Bucks mark-up' bin.

    When Henry Bucks have sales, their prices move from ludicrous to expensive. When American Tailors have sales their products are often the cheapest you will find anywhere on planet Earth.
     


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