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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by earthdragon, Nov 18, 2008.

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  1. Yika

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    The way ABC radio's reporting it Rudd's a goner.

    yeah. 1st female PM.
     
  2. __PG__

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    I got the Aldwych in black. It's my first pair of 'proper shoes' since I was 14 and dad bought me a pair of leather-soled brogue wingtip derbys for high school. I think they cost about $150 back in 1989!!

    Re : the missus. She's my biggest fan and her own worst enemy. For years she tried to get me to 'dress smart' . I was happy to dress like a teenager. My idea of 'dressing up' was throwing on the cargos and trainers and going clubbing.

    She'd bring me nice shirts from her work (i.e. Austen Brothers in luxury twill) and I'd sneer at her .. "What are you trying to do.... you want me to look like a merchant banker?"

    Anyway..over the past 12 months I've had a renaissance and I've completely turned around. I've bought four Italian made fully canvased suits in seven months (three new, one 2nd hand). My wife was initially very happy and ecstatic...but now she's worried that I'm spending too much money on nice clothes and that I'm now out of control.

    The lesson is : Be careful what you wish for!
     
  3. fxh

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    I'm also wondering if anyone has anything to say about rembrandt' MTM service. I was talking to the guys in Mid-city and they mentioned that the suits are made in NZ, and are also throwing in an extra pant for about $1200 to $1500.
    I don't know about lately but not all that many years ago Rembrandt had the best range sportcoats around it oz - at almost any price point - and they were always reasonable price. I was speaking to the guy at http://www.ohenrymenswear.com.au/ and he does Rembrant MTM for around those same prices. Even though he specialises in big guys he will do it for all sizes. He knew his stuff and has been in the game for a long time and has a lot of experience. I'm sure he had Dormieul and Holland and Sherry books - although they might be a bit dearer than $1500. Its a 3 week turnaround i think. I'm always a bit bemused about two pairs of pants. I've never worn out a pair of pants in my life - they have always either gone out of fashion or fit after years - obviously some people are harder on their trousers than I am.
     
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    Anyway..over the past 12 months I've had a renaissance and I've completely turned around. I've bought four Italian made fully canvased suits in seven months (three new, one 2nd hand). My wife was initially very happy and ecstatic...but now she's worried that I'm spending too much money on nice clothes and that I'm now out of control. The lesson is : Be careful what you wish for!
    Oh dear Thats a new suit every 6 weeks. Like a convert to catholicism - worse than us born to it Still you can always lie and say to her you are using an online self help group for addicts - almost true. But before you can be cured you have to reach rock bottom and admit you are powerless! and you've a few more suits and shoes to go yet to reach hard core hopeless.
     
  5. JohnsNotHere

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    Oh dear

    Thats a new suit every 6 weeks.

    Like a convert to catholicism - worse than us born to it

    Still you can always lie and say to her you are using an online self help group for addicts - almost true.

    But before you can be cured you have to reach rock bottom and admit you are powerless! and you've a few more suits and shoes to go yet to reach hard core hopeless.


    It sounds like he's moved from suits to shoes... oh dear
     
  6. 3ff3z8e

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    Hi everyone,

    Thanks so much for everybody's input[​IMG] Really do appreciate it. I'm currently looking around the OTRs as well.

    Been to Ron Bennett near Pitt St. mall just to check em out earlier today, but by gosh those dudes were pushy... Kinda drove me away with the pushiness and all...Big selection of suits though...

    I'll try herringbone at cicular quay or surry hills next. perhaps I could find something decent or even david jones since they have sales on now...

    Have also considered the a "Baroni/ Daniele" suit from the Wizard of Ahhs..... though once again I'm questioning the wisdom of getting a seemingly decent suit for roughly AUD$350 excl alterations sight unseen online.... The slimmer Marco Valenti range is probably going to be too tight. I'm a Drop 4 on a 38S, formerly a "drop 2" but cut off all the fast food junk and soft drinks due to a health scare....

    Any other places which anyone might recommend suit hunting?? Brands to avoid? thanks...
     
  7. JohnsNotHere

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    If you go to Herringbone, I'd go to the Circular Quay store. Ethan their head tailor works there and is very good. I've bought two suits from him and he's always a pleasure to deal with. He has a good eye and will get the necessary alterations done. I believe they have a sale on for the next 5 days so you may be able to pick up a suit at a discount (don't quote me on this).


    Hi everyone,

    Thanks so much for everybody's input[​IMG] Really do appreciate it. I'm currently looking around the OTRs as well.

    Been to Ron Bennett near Pitt St. mall just to check em out earlier today, but by gosh those dudes were pushy... Kinda drove me away with the pushiness and all...Big selection of suits though...

    I'll try herringbone at cicular quay or surry hills next. perhaps I could find something decent or even david jones since they have sales on now...

    Have also considered the a "Baroni/ Daniele" suit from the Wizard of Ahhs..... though once again I'm questioning the wisdom of getting a seemingly decent suit for roughly AUD$350 excl alterations. The slimmer Marco Valenti range is probably going to be too tight. I'm a Drop 4 on a 38S, formerly a "drop 2" but cut off all the fast food junk and soft drinks due to a health scare....

    Any other places which anyone might recommend suit hunting?? Brands to avoid? thanks...
     
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    Been to Ron Bennett near Pitt St. mall just to check em out earlier today, but by gosh those dudes were pushy... Kinda drove me away with the pushiness and all...Big selection of suits though... I'll try herringbone at cicular quay or surry hills next. perhaps I could find something decent or even david jones since they have sales on now... Have also considered the a "Baroni/ Daniele" suit from the Wizard of Ahhs..... though once again I'm questioning the wisdom of getting a seemingly decent suit for roughly AUD$350 excl alterations sight unseen online... thanks...
    Don't go online - you must try shitloads of suits on in real life. Try jackets on until you are dizzy. Mainly jackets - don't worry about the pants until you are ready to settle on a suit. DJs should be ok to help you get fitted honestly. Some Sydney people here might even be able to recommend a sales person there by name you can trust. Stay away from any that feel pushy. Depending on your body shape Herringbone might not suit you.
     
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    Do what fxh said.

    I had big trouble finding a nice fitted jacket with pants that would fit. Thanks to lots of skiing, bike riding and martial arts I have a big arse and thighs.

    With higher-end suits there will be enough in the waist and inside leg of the pants so that you will have enough to alter once you find a nice jacket.

    What sort of budget are you on? I don't know much about Sydney but I know in Melbourne you can get great Italian suits for $800.
     
  10. 3ff3z8e

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    Do what fxh said.

    I had big trouble finding a nice fitted jacket with pants that would fit. Thanks to lots of skiing, bike riding and martial arts I have a big arse and thighs.

    With higher-end suits there will be enough in the waist and inside leg of the pants so that you will have enough to alter once you find a nice jacket.

    What sort of budget are you on? I don't know much about Sydney but I know in Melbourne you can get great Italian suits for $800.


    Thanks everyone,

    My budget's about the $500 - $1k mark for a suit. Will be trying the suits out tomorrow, I also spotted this store near Bridge Street called Leone which a collegue of mine recommended. Will be checking them out tommorow as well...

    PG, I tend to fly down to melb once in a while... would be great if you don't mind sharing the place.

    Once again, thank you all for your gracious input.
     
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    I've bought my suits (so far) from Azzaro in south Melbourne. They stock a wide range of Italian suits from low-end fused (Enrico Coveri) to high-end fused (Versace Collection) to mass-produced cavassed (Cantarelli, Canali, Sarti d'Italia) to hand-made (Antichi Telai).

    They only stock standard sizes though.
     
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    JohnsNotHere - are you going to Topy your shoes? I think that as I'll be using them as an everyday shoe...I will.

    BTW Sarti are having a sale http://www.sarti.com.au/sale/.
     
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    BTW Sarti are having a sale http://www.sarti.com.au/sale/.

    anyone checked this out? if so, what suit sizes are available in their sub 1k range ?
     
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    Been to Ron Bennett near Pitt St. mall just to check em out earlier today, but by gosh those dudes were pushy... Kinda drove me away with the pushiness and all...Big selection of suits though...


    Those guys, along with Tony Barlow, are supremely pushy. It's like walking into a Parramatta Road car lot - they don't understand "just looking".
     
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    anyone checked this out? if so, what suit sizes are available in their sub 1k range ?

    Not sure. I know they were all out of Cantarelli in a Euro 52, however there were some Cantarelli sports jackets available in that size a few weeks ago.
     
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    anyone checked this out? if so, what suit sizes are available in their sub 1k range ?

    I went at lunch time today to check out their soes, was the only person there so the sales woman was quite helpful. No shoes in my size, so I looked around at the suits. Prices started from $250. She showed me a couple of fully canvased suits priced at 30% off (rrp about $2,200 or something like that), but I was just browsing really. Was a little sad to hear that she just recently sold her last three piece suit, but thems the breaks.
     
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    I've bought my suits (so far) from Azzaro in south Melbourne. They stock a wide range of Italian suits from low-end fused (Enrico Coveri) to high-end fused (Versace Collection) to mass-produced cavassed (Cantarelli, Canali, Sarti d'Italia) to hand-made (Antichi Telai).

    They only stock standard sizes though.


    Been meaning to check them out. Any love for euro 48 / 50Cs there usually? And what are the Antichi Telai suits like? Started a thread to see if anyone had experience or opinions on them but got nothing.

    Cheers
     
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    They should have good range Euro 48 there, ring them and ask. I only look at Euro 52/54. I bought an Antichi Telai Linen navy suit from them last year. It was my first suit purchase (along with a Canali) ...so I didn't really know that much about it, except that a) It was full floating canvas b) It had basted sleeve for working button holes c) It fitted me like a glove. In the seven months I've had it, it is my favourite article in my wardrobe. The suit looks great in summer, and the jacket goes great with jeans** It's now sitting out the winter months on instructions from my wife [​IMG] Since then I've learnt a bit more about suits. I'd say the fault is that they have fairly low armholes and it isn't as comfortable as my Canali suits across the shoulders. However its a tighter fit and a more slender silhouette than the Canali. They are a traditional Roman company and presumably their cut is also traditionally Roman as well. I now think that I could have maybe gone up a size. I tried on the new line of wool suits (mainly super 130's, super 150's). They are quite stunning and the silhouette for the 52 was exceptionally slender and fitted..however it was probably too tight across the shoulders. I tried on the 54 and what I lost in a cutting-edge silhouette I regained in comfort and fit around the neck and shoulders. I'm not a suit expert, but IMO the feel of them is similar to D'Avenza and Isaia (which I have tried on a few times but never worn for long periods of time). Here is another link about the company: Italtrade.com - link They are now merged withthe Tuscany based Mabro group (I can't tell who bought out who) which has started the Sarti D'Italia brand which is basically the same suit but with more machine work and mass production. In conclusion, they are definitely worth a visit. Try them on, its up to you if you pull the trigger. The range that Azzaro has brought out at the moment is very conservative in terms of fabric colours (i.e. navy, navy pinstripe, charcoal, black etc.) so it wasn't what I was after but it could be right up your alley. They are on Facebook link **I know you shouldn't wear 'orphaned' jackets but quite frankly I couldn't give a stuff. As a dark linen jacket, it looks like a casual sports jacket anyway.
     
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    Been to Ron Bennett near Pitt St. mall just to check em out earlier today, but by gosh those dudes were pushy... Kinda drove me away with the pushiness and all...Big selection of suits though...

    Those guys, along with Tony Barlow, are supremely pushy. It's like walking into a Parramatta Road car lot - they don't understand "just looking".

    +1.

    Also, the shop assistants typically have no idea as to how a suit should actually fit. They recommend that you get at least one size too large, and then when you insist on actually trying on something in your size, they'll tell you that it is too tight, and that it will restrict your range of movement.

    What do they actually think I'll be doing in the suit? Digging ditches? Cutting down trees?
    No, I'll be sitting at a desk or going for a walk to have coffee or get lunch. I don't need to be able to wield an axe whilst wearing my jacket. Besides, women's jackets are tightly fitting, with high armholes and narrow shoulders, and I've never heard a shop assistant in a womenswear store telling a customer not to buy a jacket because it will restrict their movement. [​IMG]

    Anyway, as one of the posters above suggested, it would be well worth your while to head along to Herringbone to talk with Ethan, their head tailor. It may be that, depending on your build, Herringbone's suits will not fit you well. However, it is certainly worth trying and Ethan should be able to give you some excellent advice on fit, and on what to look out for in a good, well-fitted suit.
     
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    Steer very clear of Ron Bennet stores and the like. Decent suits sell themselves, and do not need a hard sell. Those places make me thorw up a little in my mouth a little every time I pass.

    In your price range make sure you check out the Herringbone Clearance Store at $500 for a suit and factoring in $150 for alterations that sounds like it fits your budget. Also check out their 'legit' stores too, it is a good comparison for shopping around. As suggested thorw on jackets, and don't be shy. The sale does indeed end sunday as per the last email I got anyway.

    The ebay suits you mentioned are cheap and appear to be fantastic value for money, however fit is the problem. The jacket was perfect on me but the pants were freaking tight. If you go ahead with one, email Jeff and get the 10% Styleforum discount, also if you buy it privately, not ebay, it is cheaper still. I paid $250 for the suit or there abouts, it was a real shame to return it!

    I am still looking for some desert boots - the Hush Puppies John mentioned fit the bill, just can't find my size left anywhere! If anyone sees UK10.5 or US 11 desert boots around in Sydney let me know.
     
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