Sorry for the late reply all, been away fishing at Lake Eucumbene today. brrrr. Anyway thanks for all the advice and reply's, I actually also bought some shurons some time ago with the measuring etc but hated the frames once they came in. I'm a tall guy with an oval/longish face and really need to try glasses on before comitting, so online is out for these. but there are a few boutique optometerists in Canberra and one (arcidiacomo I think) is a client of my mums book keeping business, so I might visit him and see what he has. I had my second last prescription pair made by Arcidiacono, good service and selection but then I decided to go back to George Skoufis, one thing about Acidiacono is that Matthew the optometrists, father has to be the best traditional barber in Canberra 'Phillip The Executive Hair Salon' Waldof Arcade Civic. By the way did you find out the opening hours for that cobbler in Fyshwick tried ringing again but no answer.