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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by earthdragon, Nov 18, 2008.

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  1. Geoffrey Firmin

    Geoffrey Firmin Senior member

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    Yes very odd I was in town Tuesday and didn't even need a jumper and then come back to Canberra, 8c the wind coming off the snow line, hat, gloves, scarf and overcoat and still the wind goes straight you.:fu:

    My Clarks DB arrived just now, can't for the life of me see how you could size and fit into them, have to give them a spray with a suede protector before wearing them out. I had been looking at the Kimber DB but that colour stripe on the back of the boot is far too 70's for my tastes.
     


  2. thebrownman

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    Man, I can't even remember the 70s. Must've had a sweet time.
     


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    Sorry mate, that was probably me in my college on-campus frat boy days. Please forgive me, I've since converted to the Sartorial ways now.
     


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    fxh Senior member

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    Sadly underreported and generally under appreciated Gary Shearston died this week.

    He was one of the first to sing with a distinctive Australian accent and also recorded Australian folk songs in UK with reggae backing.

    All his albums are good but two from the 70s - Dingo - and - The Greatest Stone On Earth And Other Two-Bob Wonders are true milestones in Australian music and worth getting your hands on for a few listens. They still stand up well.

    Strangely Gary had a hit in UK in the 70s with I Get A Kick Out Of You. Australian voice and all.


    Shopping On A Saturday


    More:
    http://simplyaustralia.net/interview-garyshearston.html

    Edit: Clothing reference:

     
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  5. Gerry Nelson

    Gerry Nelson Senior member

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    Those are Edward Green Dovers. :)
     


  6. Journeyman

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    Back in Brisbane after two weeks in Japan. Just went to the dentist and had a wisdom tooth extracted - not a great way to get out of the holiday mood!

    Picked up plenty of summer clothes at Uniqlo, including some of the most comfortable chino shorts I've ever worn and a couple of Michael Bastian x Uniqlo polo shirts.

    I'm now gradually reading through the 500 or so posts from the past couple of weeks in the Oz Member's thread.




    TFP, Royal Mail usually takes a week, in my experience - much faster to get stuff from the UK rather than the US, which usually takes two weeks via USPS. I don't know how long Thurston will take to actually post the braces. I know that, if requested, they will put particular ends on the braces for you before sending them, which would obviously take a little time and make things take a bit longer.
     


  7. Journeyman

    Journeyman Senior member

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    D'oh! Double post, for some reason.
     
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  8. Journeyman

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    +1.


    +100.

    As mentioned, I've got about ten made-to-measure shirts, a few suits, an odd jacket and a few ties from Deer Style, as well as a couple of off-the-rack, handmade shirts from G. Inglese in Italy made for Deer Style, which are easily as good as my Borrelli shirts.

    Rene is great to deal with, as he is very knowledgeable, very friendly and very helpful.

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    https://www.facebook.com/Deerstyle





    I wear boat shoes/deck shoes all the time in summer and I think that it's a good look. Mine have been very hard-wearing, too.
     


  9. Petepan

    Petepan Senior member

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    Young man, where is your tie?
     


  10. nabilmust

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    Lol.. No client meetings or court appearance; and it's a polo-t so I left the tie at home
     


  11. Journeyman

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    I realise that I'm rather late to the discussion, but I worked in uni admin a bit over a decade ago, and my role - which was in international education - involved liaising with a lot of dept/faculty heads or senior academics so as to organise memoranda of understanding with overseas institutions, and also arranging meetings between staff at our uni and overseas universities.

    I tended to wear blue shirts (sometimes with button-down collar, sometimes spread collar), odd trousers (usually mid-grey or brown) or chino pants, and plain captoes or longwings. With regard to ties, I wore some knits and a few prints.

    The best dressed person beside me in our branch was the director, and he typically wore a white shirt, blue tie, navy blazer and either beige or mid-grey trousers - a conservative look that was not too formal yet not too casual.

    The only people that I ever saw wearing suits were the Vice-Chancellor and other senior staff, such as the DVCs and PVCs and the occasional faculty dean.
     


  12. fxh

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    papa - I haven't had time to type - still haven't really - but... some short notes...

    I've worked directly on campus for a uni (and TAFE!) and in most jobs I've had a lot to do with Unis - like hosting departments as part of work and forging contracts/relationships etc partnership in research etc. and setting up departments.

    The basic statement is in most faculties if you are neat and clean and own more than 3 sets of outfits then you will be unusual. There is an immature dependent mentality in much of academia that encourages a perpetual adolescence especially in males.

    That said it does vary between university, campus and discipline, and rural and urban. Other than brief visits I am only familiar with Victorian Unis. I'd say that based on visits other states are no better and often worse - ref: Qld/NT/WA

    Lets start with an anecdote and observation - Some time ago I was invited back to a "re-union" of the particular campus I had worked on. I think it was about 20 years since I had first worked there. Anyway - most people were recognisable by the clothes they wore. I can particularly remember two members from the Engineering faculty. I swear they were wearing the exact same clothes as they wore 20 years earlier. Shrunken v necked woolen jumpers and jeans and nondescript green coloured shirts - open necked and beards - scraggly and unshaped. The only difference was less hair - balding and bigger bellies. I'm not using hyperbole here - I do really think it was the same clothes.

    Like a lot of things in life it depends what you want to achieve. If you want to influence people, shape opinions, get people onside , build things, encourage people to follow you -then you will dress different than if you are a lab scientist who just does his/her job or an IT service person who only needs to keep the network up or a (typical) resentful lecturer who doesn't care beyond their immediate job. Many jobs don't require much effort to influence and convert and achieve things by getting people to work together and listen / respond to you.

    In the above cases it doesn't matter what you wear - because - in general - you don't care what people think and you only mix with your own kind.

    If on the other hand you want to get things done, because you care, or because its your job, to mix and influence with a range of people NOT made in your own image then you might think about how you present.

    There is an added complication, in a campus of academics who pride themselves on their "eccentricity" and "uniqueness" there is a stultifying conformity in dress that anywhere else would be considered a breach of human rights legislation.

    An inner city "arts" faculty will tolerate little outside of black, nondescript greys and general un-ironed scruffiness. Occasionally they will permit a clean black look and sometimes a surly resentful "fun" tie on a ill fitting black shirt.

    Outside of arts and liberal sciences jeans and ill fitting creased shirts worn for a week at a time are de rigueur and a tie will be seen as selling out to "admin" and possibly the cause of a complaint to the union or at least shunning in the tea room over stale tea bags and soggy malt biscuits. A suit that fits will be seen as "oppressive" to workers - all this by people on secure tenure and above average salaries and working hours that provide for every Friday off and much "working from home" and leisurely 6 weeks over xmas holidays. Not to mention numerous junkets to conferences interstate

    I better go but a bit more:

    Medical and Business faculties are comfortable with suits and ties. And even being well dressed.

    If you want or have to interact and co-operate and influence lost of people you will need first impressions and lasting impressions.

    Clothes too neat or too new will frighten many immature people. A tie will be often seen as suspect. A tailored jacket will sometimes be suspect.

    You will need to dress for the day - if you need to consult with the sociology dudes then a suit and tie will work against you - you need not too clean jeans and open necked shirt - working with the Medicine women and blokes on a building project - then a suit and tie is fine - the Arts women on a new building? - then don't wear a tie - at least on first meting - after people know you a while and trust you then anything is ok - the arts women will even like a suit and tie ...{wink}

    If you have money, grants or promotions to distribute then wear what you want - everyone will suck up to you.

    This is all a bit quick and might not be fair ........
     
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  13. coxaca

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    Academics tend to eschew sartorialism, as they like to regard themselves as "serious thinkers" for whom all of the petty vicissitudes of mere mortals are a distraction from the important stuff.

    The important stuff being, writing endless grant applications, marking undergrad exam papers, and pooh-pooing their competitors' presentations at conferences.

    Yeah, right.

    My brother is a professor, worked on campus all his life, runs his own lab, publication list a mile long etc etc. Worst dress sense I've ever seen. He wears his unspeakable rags like a badge of honour. Bah.
     


  14. Dusty Brogues

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    EG's.... Well done, look superb! Very elegant.
     


  15. LonerMatt

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    My pleasure! My current book is going to take me at least until tomorrow to finish.
     


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