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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by earthdragon, Nov 18, 2008.

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  1. boff

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    Digging up an old post - I'm a Bisonte fan :) Hunt Leather in Balmain has them.

     
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    Say you've had them for years. She didnt see them because were camouflaged
     
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    nabilmust Senior member

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    I'm having more than a little difficulty processing the logic of your argument here.



    It could just be me, or the fact that there isn't any presented.
     
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    Has anyone had any experience with local shoemakers?

    A friend of mine from Melbourne recently started boasting about commissioning - amongst other things - a pair of boots from his "local cordwainer". I must say they look very nice leather, wing tip two tone (black/burgundy). They cost him about $900 apparently and made on his own last. It never occurred to me to look into bespoke shoemaking from someone other than C&J/EG/JL/etc. This seems insanely cheap for what he got. Anyone here had experience with local shoemakers and what if any pitfalls there are to commissioning something like this?
     
  5. Journeyman

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    Ovlov, there are a few cordwainers around, a chap in Sydney by the name of Andrew MacDonald being probably the best known of them at present. There's also a made-to-order shoe business run out of "Beggar Man Thief" in Melbourne, although I'm not sure how far they go in terms of making a last to fit your foot and so on.

    MacDonald (well, I think that's his name) in Sydney appears to be technically proficient but most of the examples of his work that I have seen fall very much into the fashion/streetwear category of footwear - weathered leather boots with straps and buckles and very bowed soles, for example.

    Probably the most knowledgeable person in regard to Melbourne cordwainers is a former Styleforum member with the username "The Shooman".

    He was banned from SF some years ago and he now posts over on the "Film Noir Buff" forum (or FNB forum), still with the Shooman username.

    Shooman has gone to considerable effort to track down old cordwainers in Melbourne and had a last made for himself, before commissioning a couple of pairs of bespoke shoes from some of the old shoemakers.

    If you have a look at his threads on the FNB forum documenting his experiences with Melbourne shoemakers, there are some interesting photographs and information.
     
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    It is cheaper than most white pointy shoes from Aquila. Herringbone also stock rebadged Cheaney shoes.
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  7. Journeyman

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    Herringbone used to stock rebadged Cheaney shoes, but they stopped doing so four or five years ago, and started selling Crockett & Jones shoes.
     
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    There's a guy in Melbourne who trades as Wootton, in Prahran. Have never visited but was reading a write-up in Monocle not five minutes ago. The examples on the website aren't quite to my taste colour wise, and some are a bit 'distressed', but they are Blake-stitched and the quality looks okay as long as decent leathers are available.
     
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    Shanghai Tianzi Shoes. You'll get bespoke/MTM shoes for a heckuva lot less than McDonald and his like charge and it'll look a darn sight better too. None of those upturned pixy shoes there (unless you particularly want one of those monstrosities).
     
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    Unless you have foot problems I don't think there's great value in a bespoke shoe.
     
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    I'd agree. But I do have pretty badly mismatched feet and at sub $1k that's not much more than I?'d be looking at for RTW C&J or Carminas.
     
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    It's about 50% more...
     
  13. ovlov

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    Aren't C&J Handgrade and Carminas about $700?

    I don't have that much experience with shoe pricing being in Adelaide and buying everything on sale anyhow. I haven;t been yet but I was under the impression that pretty much everything stocked by Double Monk besides CJ bench was starting around the 800-900 mark.

    Anyhow I'm just considering options atm. Getting married in a few months and trying to work out what a can justify squeezing out of the wedding budget.
    Speaking of which what do you guys think? Suit from Suit Shop and Shoes from DM? or get pimping with PJohnson and wear the shoes I already have?
     
  14. Gerry Nelson

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    What shoes do you already have?
     
  15. Pink Socks

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    Get married on a beach...go barefoot and splurge on a suit...and ensure you invite fxh (with a no shoes, no socks dress code)...sorry could not resist.

    Depending on what shoes you have already a suit from Suit Shop and some good shoes (maybe from DM) would be a good way to go. Bad shoes ruin even the best suits, great shoes elevate a whole outfit.
     
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    Well I already have a pair of black Edward Green Chelseas. I just want an excuse for more shoes... I only have them and a pair of Allen Edmonds black bluchers which seems to be the bare minimum of footwear. So I guess it comes down to whether PJ is worth the extra splurge to forgo a nice pair of new shoes.
     
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    Ovlov, Carmina cost about $500 from overseas places like Skoaktiebolaget. The difficulty, of course, is getting your sizing right.

    C&J handgrade typically cost about $700 if you order them from somewhere like Pediwear, although you can sometimes find them more cheaply. I remember that someone did post about Double Monk's prices a while back but I can't remember what they were.

    Didn't you pick up a pair of Edward Greens on sale for a fantastic price a while back? What style were they? If they are comfortable and if you can wear them for your wedding, I think that you should do so as you're not really going to get better shoes, at least not for under $1000 (well, not unless you order Vass, which introduces a whole new lot of sizing issues to consider).

    I know that weddings are often a time to spend lots of money but (at the risk of putting a sizeable damper on things), I'd recommend wearing your EGs and your existing Suit Shop suit and putting the money saved towards a great honeymoon or, alternatively, putting it towards a mortgage.
     
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    Nonsense. If you have the money, then I say go for it. Bespoke suits, shirts, shoes. Why not?
     
  19. Gerry Nelson

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    Based on this, if it was a choice between:
    1. SuitShop suit and new shoes from Double Monk
    2. PJ suit and existing shoes

    I would choose option 2. The EG Chelseas are more than up to the job.

    Alternatively, use your existing suit (if appropriate) with the EG Chelseas as Journeyman states.
     
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    My wife is a great bargain hunter. She managed to secure some tickets to Paris via HK at 2/3rd the cost of what we paid previously.

    We have two weeks in Paris in January. Mulling a sidetrip of 1 to 3 days via TGV- and I am spoilt for choices. Please help me:

    Geneva- only 3.5 hours away. Apart from sightseeing, dont really have any other attractions of interest to us (opera and museums not interested).
    Milan- about 6.5 hours away. Wife will love this. But worried about safety.
    Barcelona- about 7 hours away. Heard lots of stories, but have not done research yet.
    London- 4 hours away? But unlikely to go due to family politics.

    Cost of accommodation will also be of importance, since we will be paying double rent (Paris apartment secured for 2 weeks at discount).
     
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