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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by earthdragon, Nov 18, 2008.

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  1. Nicholas D C

    Nicholas D C Well-Known Member

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    Cottonwork doesn't seem to provide info on ply count unfortunately, but both are 'Super-fine Egyptian cotton' according to the website, and all are pure cotton generally. I'm mainly interested in whether TessMonti is noticeably better than the Thomas Mason fabric (which I have a sample of, and was quite impressed by when feeling it and comparing to Cottonwork's own fabric tiers). Thanks for the info re: ply count though, will keep an eye out. Generally 2-ply cotton shirts tend to be standard at the higher end, as I understand it?
     
  2. JimmyHoffa

    JimmyHoffa Senior member

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    Now we're talking! I knew this thread was destined for bigger things.

    P.S Matt, MJ Bale is having a pretty big lane way sale today, through till the third. I know you're out in the sticks, but if you are traveling to Melbourne, you might be able to pickup a nice suit.
     
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    Nicholas D C Well-Known Member

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    Yes, might do some space tourism whilst I'm at it. [​IMG]

    I have actually already gone custom for the majority of my business shirts (courtesy of a fairly good tailor in Bangkok, shirts made from Egyptian cotton, I think he said it was same fabric as some RLBL shirts). Of course, my experience wasn't the same as if I'd gone to Charvet or Savile Row, but that'll be on the cards next year when I'm back in the UK (and damn, Maurice Sedwell/Andrew Ramroop is more expensive than he used to be... think he went from 2500 GBP to 4500 GBP per three-piece recently...). Right now I have more dress shirts than is really necessary, when I was in Bangkok I got far too many double cuffs, but oh well. Need to branch out into some button-cuff types, as I think wearing cuff-links day-in day-out might be a bit too formal in certain instances for my current workplace.
     
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  4. Prince of Paisley

    Prince of Paisley Senior member

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    I don't think it's a question of just cost, so much as value and availability of skill. Some of our Australian clothing label owners on this forum will tell you that in many cases there is no suitable Australian supplier of the garments they and the market want. Some of the skills like shoe making are basically gone altogether.

    Even if there are Australian suppliers, quality can actually be more of an issue than it is in China, and the gap is getting larger very year. Look at the quality of your Chinese made MJ Bale suits and compare them to an Australian made Farage suit. Last time I looked the Chinese suits were better finished all round and more consistently cut to their block, not to mention half the price. Their Japanese made suits are even nicer, on par with the Australian suits in terms of price and getting even cheaper as the yen falls.

    I'm as patriotic as the next bloke, but I'm not prepared to pay a 100% premium for an inferior product just because it whistles Waltzing Matilda.
     
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    The Ernesto Senior member

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    Interesting point. Reflection of manufacturing/skills in ascendancy in one region and in decline in another.
     
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    LonerMatt Senior member

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    Yes! More meetups, more often. I've been to one, was hideously late after poorly organising it, still had a blast chatting the night away. It's a shame our schedules/locations vary so wildly across the forum.
     
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    DartagnanRed Senior member

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    Farage gave a presentation to some of my associates, and he reportedly said that up until about a year ago he maintained Australian manufacturing because the quality wasn't up to scratch offshore for suits of the same price. He now plans to use more offshore production (perhaps all of it) as the quality suit manufacturing in China has surpassed that in Australia for the same price point.

    Take this with a grain of salt as it is hearsay.
     
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    good insight there, thanks for the info Prince.

    Have you guys noticed the suits in Farage are all in peak lapels? I also agree that MJ suits seem to be better quality compared to Farage. Price is cheaper as well.

    is there a Paul Smith stocklist here in Sydney? What do people think about their suits?
     
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    Ditto. Super pleased with them. Thanks to deingesicht for organising.
     
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    The Melbourne sale is on next Thursday.
     
  11. Henry Carter

    Henry Carter Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    Too true. And having worked for Fletcher Jones when 90% of it was still Australian made, I've seen the demise in skills first hand. There is no younger generation being taught tailoring, yet there are plenty of fashion designers that can sew creating "fashion" but could they put a canvas in to a coat? The answer is 99% no except for a few.

    I still wish there were a few old Fletcher Jones tailors around that had started there own shows to at least make trousers, because there were some cracking flannels, cavalry twills and all sorts coming out in those days, which was really only 10 years ago. Problem is, they were all old factory workers and not entrepranuers, living in Warnambool and mostly retired by now. I'd really love to be able to carry Australian made stuff, but I just can't find it anymore.
     
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    +1. Back in the 1980s and 1990s, my dad used to have some great flannel and mini-houndstooth check trousers made by Fletcher Jones.

    I went in there about five years back to see if I could find anything similar and it was all very disappointing. Very dull, mediocre clothes that were all made overseas, and yet they were asking surprisingly high prices.
     
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    Hey Jas; I just realised I ordered my bowtie from Henry Carter without making an account.... I can't seem to check order status etc.
    (paid with paypal maybe that's why)
     
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    Bunny, there is a HC affiliate thread :).
     
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