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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by earthdragon, Nov 18, 2008.

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  1. Prince of Paisley

    Prince of Paisley Senior member

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    Get this one.
     
  2. TehBunny

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    In the case of black knit tie; I have always wondered why it is more versatile than navy? Starting out I always thought you never needed a black tie except for 'black tie'; also that it was always preferable to get a navy. While I myself have never owned a black knit (heresy :) I have always wondered why everyone think they are the most versatile; is it a trad thing? Don't get me wrong I do enjoy the aesthetic but why black>navy for knits when usually it's always navy>black for most ties?
     
  3. Gerry Nelson

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    This is quite an interesting read: http://www.ivy-style.com/the-black-knit-tie-the-great-neutralizer.html
     
  4. lachyzee

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    Already own it. I bought the second one just then.
     
  5. Henry Carter

    Henry Carter Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    It's an interesting one, which I can't really answer. I have owned a navy one back before I started the business, but when I'm wearing navy ties I tend to go for pin dots, plain twill or grenadine, so the black makes a nice change. It works very well simply, mid-dark grey suit, white shirt, white linen ps and black oxfords. Also fantastic with beige/khaki cotton suits/coats.
     
  6. Pink Socks

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    http://wax-wane.com/2012/11/26/dark-knit-ties-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-hating-and-love-black/

    (I do not own a black knit either, yet, though I do have a navy one, a navy with white dots and a navy grenadine).
     
  7. Pink Socks

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    Navy, baby!
     
  8. Prince of Paisley

    Prince of Paisley Senior member

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    I actually agree with you. I rarely wear a black tie (as opposed to "black tie") outside of funerals.

    I've always seen a knit tie as an informal accessory. Usually I will pair it with a more informal outfit - brown shoes / lounge suit / odd jacket + pants. In that context I wouldn't wear a black one as it just wouldn't go with the rest of the outfit, and navy (or another colour) works better.

    Not saying that a black knit tie isn't a nice item to have, but I wouldn't say it was all that versatile compared to a navy or burgundy knit tie. I guess you would wear it in much the same way as you would a normal black tie - with a more formal suit and black shoes - and it gives a nice bit of texture to an otherwise conservative outfit.

    Stray thoughts:
    #5 and #7 look navy.
    Some of those outfits are ghastly.
    Why would you want to "neutralize" your outfit? Does it owe you money?
     
  9. Prince of Paisley

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    Well you can never have too many.
     
  10. Prince of Paisley

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    ^hahaha
    Yeah I think If for my first knit I would go for a chocolate or a navy with some kind of dot...then black (Jason hope you restock the brown).
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    noticed Jason has a black, hopefully goes on sale when you restock the brown so I can grab both :)
     
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  12. Pink Socks

    Pink Socks Senior member

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    True. The old ones are the best (as you and fxh would say)...

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  13. Gerry Nelson

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    I think this (from Alan See's blog) is a better illustration:
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    The black knit tie seems to 'tame' the red striped shirt here.
     
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  14. Prince of Paisley

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    I think I See (excuse pun couldn't resist) what you mean. But I'm not sure that effect is any more attributable to a black knit tie than it would be to a woven black tie with a muted design, or another dark coloured knit like a navy knit (that would work better IMO if the suit were blue in this example but you know what I mean). I have a similar red striped shirt and I often pair it with a black, woven silk tie with a small paisley (what else?) design, and it achieves a similar effect to the one in the photo you posted. Anyway, I'm not against black knit ties - they are beautiful things. But I haven't found the "need" to buy one yet all the same.
    This look is known to attract Pussy Galore - especially on a Scotsman.
     
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    Guys, guys: black knit ties are the quantum mechanics of menswear--inexplicable by conventional theories. But a black knit tie + a white or light blue shirt + a navy jacket or suit is the duck's nuts, and always will be.
     
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    I agree with you there. I think any of those ties would have achieved a similar 'taming' effect.
     
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    So I'm slightly susceptible to suggestion and I think I now need a black knit tie. So the big question is Henry Carter or TobiasJ. I like the more open weave of Toby's but I prefer the width of Jason's. Any thoughts on which would be more versatile?
     
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    NOTE - I HAVE UPDATED MY AVATAR (added this stupid note as I always find it a bit confusing when people updated their avatars, and now I have done it for the second time in a year, dear, oh dear...)
     
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    wow ok lots to catch up on!
    Nah id go for two different coloured ties.. the top one is probably easier to wear. Try brown ties - works great on navy suits. double repp or pin dot.


    Sell to the man below or return to jase - i have the same ones you got
    agreed

    Black knit tie is less versatile than navy but bloody wonderful in the wardrobe esp on grey jacket/white shirt ....

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  20. lachyzee

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    To be fair, that could be any dark colour :satisfied:
     
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