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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by earthdragon, Nov 18, 2008.

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  1. Gerry Nelson

    Gerry Nelson Senior member

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    Depends on why they're screaming ...
     
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    lol how true
     
  3. Romp

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    I always stay at the mandarin oriental and if you swing by the american bar at happy hour you get free wagyu sliders and many singaporean young business people mingling. Im just there for the sliders as a snack with a whiskey before pushing on

    BTW GERRY - can you remind me what you did size wise for the TCNY m65 jacket? i might get the olive and navy but want size to be correct
     
  4. Prince of Paisley

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    You sound like the kind of guy who'd appreciate a pair of pebble grain, lace-up quadruple monk moon boots...

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  5. Gerry Nelson

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    Thanks, Rob. I'm a 38R in suits and I got a medium jacket but had the sleeves extended by half an inch (standard length is 23 inches which might be a little too short for some people). It feels just about right now although in retrospect, I might have had the sleeves lengthened by an inch.
     
  6. BeginnersLuck

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    Hi guys,

    New guy here requesting some help.

    I have only read a few posts in this thread and already I have seen people in a similar position to me. That being they are lacking a quality bench-made English shoe from their life.

    As mentioned by someone previously you can go to David Jones and get a lower end pair of Loakes... So long as you don't mind paying approx 70% markup on the retail price of the shoe.

    I have decided I would take a risk and buy a pair online from Pediwear instead. $300 for a pair from their 1880 collection, including shipping for the shoes and free shoe tree, with a free tie thrown in and some wax added to the order. (Not sure if I get stung for GST on the way in.) By my calculations DJ would charge $500 for a shoe from that collection.

    That's a much better deal, however I want to do everything in my power to ensure the fit is good. To that end I started this thread requesting some help from people who already own a pair of Loake shoes in the Mayfair and Capital lasts.

    If you fit that description please have a look at the thread and consider helping me out. If you don't, but are considering buying shoes online that you can't try, you might want to have a look as well. I think I am attacking the problem from an unusual angle that might see some good results.

    All things going to plan I will find out in a few weeks if I was right and let you guys know how it goes for me as well as how to get past all the little hurdles I have faced so far.
     
  7. Oli2012

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    Selvaggio, PoP, Romp, FXH, anyone else who'd like to help -

    Now that its winter I'm going to build a semi formal wardrobe for situations formal enough to call for a blazer but not formal enough for a wool suit (restaurants, dinners, lunches, dates etc).

    I was reading in Manton's book that a casual wardrobe should be built around blazers and odd jackets in winter (tweeds) and summer (linen) fabrics.

    Does such a rule apply to Australia? Even in the depths of winter I can't see myself being cold enough to wear tweed jackets and flannel pants, nor can I see many on the market (most OTR jackets seem to come in cotton twill). Or should the linen remain but a lighter fabric like cotton be used in winter?

    What would you recommend for a basic semi formal wardrobe? I'm thinking of getting some blazers from MJ bale in a navy, grey and tobacco, a few shirts from O&J, a few jeans and chinos and mixing them up. Am I on the right track?
     
  8. Prince of Paisley

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    The Steinhart you linked to isn't an exact copy - if it was IWC would be on to their lawyers I suspect. But it's obviously trying to be a cheaper alternative of something else and I just don't see their appeal if you set aside the lower pricetag. I don't think Steinhart has some forgotten pedigree as official watch supplier to Hermann Goering, and for their sake thankfully not (the question of why people like Axis pilot watches is something I don't get at all btw, but to each his own). More likely their history consists of some entrepreneur (possibly named Steinhart though not necessarily) deciding to make IWC lookalikes in China before having his German sister-in-law screw the back on so he can say they are "made in Germany", sell them for next to nothing and still make a profit. IMO you may as well save yourself another $500 and get a Parnis if all you are after is the pilot look, because that's all Steinhart are offering as far as I can see.
     
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    Are we in the same country? It's still bloody hot here in aus
     
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    I personally would start with a nice cotton blazer - its casual enough for your needs and versatile across seasons. Ive got one in navy, unlined, unstructured, white MOP buttons and got it 1cm shorter in the body than my standard suit jacket and a tad roomier to accomodate a V neck/cardigan if it gets nippy.

    I wear it with jeans, chinos, flannel pants etc its quite versatile
     
  12. Prince of Paisley

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    Well I don't want to talk about rules, but tweed and heavy flannel generally isn't appropriate for most Australian winters (or what passes for winter in Sydney at least - it's a bit different if you're in Bowral or the Blue Mts - or Canberra for that matter). I find lined wool jackets, midweight (e.g. 10-11oz) wool trousers, and thicker cotton shirts are suitable for winter here. Maybe I'll layer with a thin jumper and scarf if it's really cold. But then again it all depends on your personal thermostat.
     
  13. Prince of Paisley

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    27 degrees and 80% humidity every day does not an autumn make!

    I agree cotton can be very versatile with jeans and chinos, but finding one that has the right weave and look to complement wool slacks can be difficult. Washed cotton for example doesn't quite go with worsted IMO.

    Good tip about making sure "winter" jackets aren't cut disco tight so you can wear a jumper underneath.
     
  14. TehBunny

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    I'd skip the grey odd/blazer as they aren't as versatile as they look on paper from my experience;.
     
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    I personally like this plan and am doing the same myself, but ideally wouldn't get two or more from the same place/ maker.

    I've bought a navy (worsted wool) blazer, planning on another wool (blue or brown check), and a couple in cotton/ lighter material (grey, lighter blue, cream).

    Also read a great tip on choosing sport coats (here I think): "If you could picture a jacket at home with a pair of matching pants, then it is either too formal or too boring in texture/ colour/ pattern to be worn outside of that context"
     
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  16. Henry Carter

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    Oli, I had a lengthy post made up which somehow got lost but I'll say quickly, if your a young early 20's guy (pretty sure you are right?)then dress like one. which means no tweed or any of that malarkey.

    Your on the right track I think. A good dinner/ date outfit for you, knowing your love of RM's would be a grey/tobacco blazer as you guest, crisp white shirt, dark denim and your RM's. No pocket squares, lapel pins etc. Even here around Canberra and the snowies where winter is actually winter (stop whingeing already you Sydneysiders :D), the Australian wardrobe is vastly different to what Manton describes should be worn. Call it climate, social acceptance or whatever you like, it's the truth. Better off dressing as to what's acceptable in real life situations in Australia instead of what is read in books, IMO of course.
     
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    Found this on the IWC website:

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    From Steinhart:

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    There is some resemblance here, but I don't think it's to the extent that you're making it out to be. In fact, I'd say they're significantly different, in almost every way aside from font colour. I just don't get the 'trying hard to be something more expensive' argument, but maybe I'm just blind to the minor elements of the watches (v. possible).
     
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    Awta.

    I'd also agree with PoP's comments on cotton jackets.

    No serious recommendations as I haven't looked at whats happening in the RTW world recently.
     
  19. Oli2012

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    Thanks a tonne for all your help guys, I'll see what I can do once my Gillard money (youth allowance) comes in!

    And romp - get your blue shirt back in stock in XL! :)
     
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    Thanks - you sure you are an XL rather than L? PM me your neck/chest/waist as I know the fit of these pretty intimately

    Edit: my navy cotton jacket is in the look book however this is a closeup fyi

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