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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by earthdragon, Nov 18, 2008.

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  1. __PG__

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    If ever a store has lost their mojo....

    I don't see how Henry Bucks will survive in a the next few decades. Whenever I go there I'm usually the only guy under 50. They sell a tired look to a generation that is almost retired. I don't see young barristers/doctors (i.e. under 40) queuing up to get fitted out at Henry Bucks.
     
  2. meister

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    I don't see how Henry Bucks will survive in a the next few decades. Whenever I go there I'm usually the only guy under 50. They sell a tired look to a generation that is almost retired. I don't see young barristers/doctors (i.e. under 40) queuing up to get fitted out at Henry Bucks.

    All of the above...the store is tired and disorganized in style and there does not seem to be a particular aesthetic other than boring and overpriced...the occasional gem...but even the sales have lost interest for me.
     
  3. meister

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    Aside from this does anyone know a good milliner or hat shop in Sydney or Canberra? I went to Stand Hatters in Sydney recently and bought an Akubra Stylemaster, even then the SA was more focused on a sale than advice. I need to get it blocked into the shape I want.

    That is strange...Rob - the boss at Strand Hatters - is a trained milliner and any time I have gone in there he has steamed up the customer's preferred bash or suggested something appropriate.

    There is also a milliner at Double Bay that does blocking I believe.
     
  4. Prince of Paisley

    Prince of Paisley Senior member

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    Anyone interested in a 40R Hickey Freeman seersucker blazer before I ebay it?
    My size but I just bought a new seersucker last week... not a common look in Syd, but we should rock it more especially as the temps hit 30-40C with 90% humidity...
     
  5. Sator

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    Sator - I'm going to NYC in 2 weeks myself. Got any decent reccomendations beyond the usual Century 21 etc etc hype?

    Cheers.


    I suggest taking a trip out to the outlet at Woodbury Commons. It's an hour or more on a coach from Manhatten. Holders of a New York Pass will get a ~10% discount off the coach fare.

    There is a Brioni outlet there, as well as Saks Off 5th Ave. There are two RL stores - one stocks the better RLPL or a bit lower stuff, and the other the lower end junk made in the same Chinese factories that make for any number of Australian labels. I didn't really look at the men's stuff there - most of the shopping was for her. So don't ask me if the Brooks Brothers store there has any Golden Fleece suits.

    If you take your other 'alf there, beware the Ferragamo store (fear for your wallet). In terms price/value the ladies' Ferragamo shoes and clothes were excellent. But that's not what you are interested in...

    The Cucinelli and Loro Piana tailored garments are poor value.

    When you can go bespoke locally with better workmanship than on any Brioni, Kiton, RLPL etc I personally don't even see why you would even want to look at anything in NYC myself. I've seen Raphael Raphaeli (Savile Row NY) bespoke garments (I have one lined up to dissect on my forum) up close and it's good but the local tailors are more than his equal.
     
  6. TheWraith

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    When you can go bespoke locally with better workmanship than on any Brioni, Kiton, RLPL etc I personally don't even see why you would even want to look at anything in NYC myself. I've seen Raphael Raphaeli (Savile Row NY) bespoke garments (I have one lined up to dissect on my forum) up close and it's good but the local tailors are more than his equal.

    +1 well said.
     
  7. ryanohare

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    I suggest taking a trip out to the outlet at Woodbury Commons. It's an hour or more on a coach from Manhatten. Holders of a New York Pass will get a ~10% discount off the coach fare.

    There is a Brioni outlet there, as well as Saks Off 5th Ave. There are two RL stores - one stocks the better RLPL or a bit lower stuff, and the other the lower end junk made in the same Chinese factories that make for any number of Australian labels. I didn't really look at the men's stuff there - most of the shopping was for her. So don't ask me if the Brooks Brothers store there has any Golden Fleece suits.

    If you take your other 'alf there, beware the Ferragamo store (fear for your wallet). In terms price/value the ladies' Ferragamo shoes and clothes were excellent. But that's not what you are interested in...

    The Cucinelli and Loro Piana tailored garments are poor value.

    When you can go bespoke locally with better workmanship than on any Brioni, Kiton, RLPL etc I personally don't even see why you would even want to look at anything in NYC myself. I've seen Raphael Raphaeli (Savile Row NY) bespoke garments (I have one lined up to dissect on my forum) up close and it's good but the local tailors are more than his equal.


    Cheers.

    I went to WC last year when in NY, and tbh didn't see an awful lot that caught my eye. I got a pair of Emporio Armani brogues which were well reduced, but that as about it.

    I didn't really think it was worth the hour odd trip out there in fact.

    Still, cheers anyway.
     
  8. Sator

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    My size but I just bought a new seersucker last week... not a common look in Syd, but we should rock it more especially as the temps hit 30-40C with 90% humidity...

    I don't know which of you guys ordered it, but I saw Adamo working on a seersucker lounge about a month ago. It's was good to see something different. Adamo said that it used to be popular but that it was nice to see it make a comeback.

    Personally, I think that modern tropical weight wools are the best if coolness is your priority. In the old days they had to use things like linen, seersucker etc as woollens were always heavy and ran warmer. However, technology has caught up and wool can now be woven very lightly.
     
  9. bhall41

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    My size but I just bought a new seersucker last week... not a common look in Syd, but we should rock it more especially as the temps hit 30-40C with 90% humidity...


    +1. I almost purchased a Seersucker jacket late last year from Ralph Lauren but it was full price
     
  10. Sator

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    Cheers.

    I went to WC last year when in NY, and tbh didn't see an awful lot that caught my eye. I got a pair of Emporio Armani brogues which were well reduced, but that as about it.

    I didn't really think it was worth the hour odd trip out there in fact.

    Still, cheers anyway.


    Why on earth would you buy Armani in NYC? You can get that rubbish here. Just because it is cheaper there doesn't make it any the less rubbishy. Armani lasts are pimpish, the leather quality third rate, the built quality totally mediocre. If you are going to all the way to NYC the least you could do is buy EG, Lobbs or something decent that is really hard to get here. [​IMG]

    Personally, I think that if you can afford to make multiple trips to NYC it's almost criminal to overlook the excellent tailors we have here to go gallivanting on the other side of the fence falsely imagining it is greener.
     
  11. tchoy

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    I suggest taking a trip out to the outlet at Woodbury Commons. It's an hour or more on a coach from Manhatten. Holders of a New York Pass will get a ~10% discount off the coach fare.

    There is a Brioni outlet there, as well as Saks Off 5th Ave. There are two RL stores - one stocks the better RLPL or a bit lower stuff, and the other the lower end junk made in the same Chinese factories that make for any number of Australian labels. I didn't really look at the men's stuff there - most of the shopping was for her. So don't ask me if the Brooks Brothers store there has any Golden Fleece suits.

    If you take your other 'alf there, beware the Ferragamo store (fear for your wallet). In terms price/value the ladies' Ferragamo shoes and clothes were excellent. But that's not what you are interested in...

    The Cucinelli and Loro Piana tailored garments are poor value.

    When you can go bespoke locally with better workmanship than on any Brioni, Kiton, RLPL etc I personally don't even see why you would even want to look at anything in NYC myself. I've seen Raphael Raphaeli (Savile Row NY) bespoke garments (I have one lined up to dissect on my forum) up close and it's good but the local tailors are more than his equal.



    Leffot is worth having a look. http://www.leffot.com/
     
  12. Geoffrey Firmin

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    That is strange...Rob - the boss at Strand Hatters - is a trained milliner and any time I have gone in there he has steamed up the customer's preferred bash or suggested something appropriate.

    There is also a milliner at Double Bay that does blocking I believe.


    Do you have the name of the milliner in Double Bay and my understanding is that Strand Hatters changed hands, mind you it was about 12 years ago that I bought my first Akubra there and only went back at Xmas.
     
  13. Prince of Paisley

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    Personally, I think that modern tropical weight wools are the best if coolness is your priority. In the old days they had to use things like linen, seersucker etc as woollens were always heavy and ran warmer. However, technology has caught up and wool can now be woven very lightly.

    You're right as always. I take SS as a good way to stay cool and also 'look' cool which is what tropical wool tries to do the opposite of. The latter is designed to keep you cool in reality while still looking the part for business etc. as if it were a cool European climate.

    Seersucker unashamedly says it's hot and you are dressing for the season. Not everyone can get away with SS at work, but for those who can I think it makes a nice contrast to more run-of-the mill woollen fabrics - and casual enough for smart social engagements.
     
  14. lennier

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    Anyone interested in a 40R Hickey Freeman seersucker blazer before I ebay it?

    Any chance of a pic and some measurements jaypee? Some OTR 40Rs are ok on me, others not. Ta.
     
  15. CHECKstar

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    Any chance of a pic and some measurements jaypee? Some OTR 40Rs are ok on me, others not. Ta.

    +1 - interested.

    I am rocking my linen suit of questionable colour today.
     
  16. fxh

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    +1 - interested.

    I am rocking my linen suit of questionable colour today.

    Is that the one with the see through pants?
     
  17. fxh

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    You're right as always. I take SS as a good way to stay cool and also 'look' cool which is what tropical wool tries to do the opposite of. The latter is designed to keep you cool in reality while still looking the part for business etc. as if it were a cool European climate.

    Seersucker unashamedly says it's hot and you are dressing for the season. Not everyone can get away with SS at work, but for those who can I think it makes a nice contrast to more run-of-the mill woollen fabrics - and casual enough for smart social engagements.


    sator - prince - this is the issue here.

    Certainly the wool can be cool with the lighter weights but to a certain extent wool always looks to me a bit more formal than say cotton or linen.

    Part of the summer look is a bit less formality with the hotter weather. And colours - lighter colours seem more appropriate on hot days. The lighter colours to my mind don't seem to work as well in wool and the texture seems a bit wrong. (I don't claim much expertise here at all and there may well be new possibilities in wool)

    The reality is that most people don't need the actual lightness/coolness of material as most offices, cars, places of work and homes are permanently set at around 21C - 22C all year round.

    Me I like to feel and look a bit summery (not to the extent of no socks or wearing shorts). I've always thought of linen blends or cotton and part lined/ buggy lined jackets. I think totally unstructured in those materials looks a little too sloppy casual.

    I imagine having 3 suits, linen blend (I think the blends tend to look better than just linen) or cotton, buggy lined, one in the tan /ecru spectrum, one off white, one in the blue spectrum towards the lighter end of blue. Then mixing and matching jackets and pants as the week goes on.

    Linen gives that bit of texture I like.

    I can't see myself in seer sucker - it seems not to fit here in Oz to me.

    Sator - Wool handles an unlined construction well - would some of the lighter wools work to give a texture and colour and slightly more relaxed summer look or do they all basically look like a normal suit and just feel lighter?
     
  18. CHECKstar

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    Is that the one with the see through pants?

    No, this is the one that some might call yellow - I might take a photo when I get home and post (might is the key word here).

    The white linen pants I picked up from RL at Donny on special (which I happened to pick up from Katrina's today after getting the legs tapered) might require a co-ordinated effort in the underpants department.
     
  19. TheWraith

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    Why on earth would you buy Armani in NYC? You can get that rubbish here. Just because it is cheaper there doesn't make it any the less rubbishy. Armani lasts are pimpish, the leather quality third rate, the built quality totally mediocre. If you are going to all the way to NYC the least you could do is buy EG, Lobbs or something decent that is really hard to get here. [​IMG]

    Personally, I think that if you can afford to make multiple trips to NYC it's almost criminal to overlook the excellent tailors we have here to go gallivanting on the other side of the fence falsely imagining it is greener.


    +1 again.
     
  20. jaypee

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    Am after a navy blazer (pref gold buttons but would consider any)

    100% Cotton
    Classic American Seersucker
    3 roll 2 / Single Vent
    MOP Buttons
    Made in USA
    Shoulders - 19
    Chest - 42\t
    Waist - 40 (Can Be Let Back Out)\t
    Length - 31\t
    Sleeves - 26
     
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