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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by earthdragon, Nov 18, 2008.

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  1. tobiasj

    tobiasj Senior member

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    Hi all

    I just got a pair of shell cordovan Florsheim longwings off the 'bay. As you can see they are pretty worn, but they fit really well so I'm keen to restore them to some sort of glory. Looks like they will need a re-heel; the sole might last a bit longer I think.

    The main issue though is the colour. They're burgundy in places, but the vamp and medallion at the front are nearly black. I guess this could be because someone has used a black wax on them? Not sure. Should I apply some sort of cleaner, or just brush them? If it's just brushing, do I need to use a particular kind of brush?

    All comments, advice or sledging welcome.

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  2. joiji

    joiji Senior member

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    Apparently Reno'Mat is safe for shell. I'd try that before anything else if you can get your hands on some. Otherwise try a conditioner and wax your arm off.
     
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  3. thebrownman

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    Toby, nice kicks. There's a LOT of life left in those.

    What I would do:

    1. Get a new heel put on - if you're up for spending money, get a dovetail heel, otherwise a standard heel is fine.
    2. Brush the whole shoe with a coarse horsehair brush for a few minutes.
    3. Wipe it down with a damp cloth and leave to dry for a few minutes.
    4. Take a standard brush and buff till your arms give out.
    5. Apply a thin coat of Saphir Renovateur or the Ventian Creme stuff and work it into the leather using your fingertips or a cloth
    6. Buff with a standard brush till your arms give out.
    7. Take a stocking from your girlfriend and stretch it taut over your hand and run it furiously over the toe of the shoe.
    8. Post pictures + accept people's compliments.
     
  4. fxh

    fxh Senior member

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  5. thebrownman

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    And that there is why you're a frumpy old man always wearing socks.
     
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  6. LonerMatt

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    Interesting news on double monk. $500 for CJ seems pretty reasonable, really.


    My question about shoes is this: are high quality shoes worth it if one is walking substantial amounts (up to 7/8 km sometimes)?

    I know with proper care they live longer, but I am unsure to what extent expensive leather shoes are really designed to be used for actually walking.

    Maybe this is a question where they turn out to be the ultimate walking machine, but it's one of those 'dumb questions' mentioned earlier :).
     
  7. JimmyHoffa

    JimmyHoffa Senior member

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    How do you clean your shoes fxh?
     
  8. JimmyHoffa

    JimmyHoffa Senior member

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    I am sure they will be far more comfortable to walk 7/8km in compared to cheap Australian brands.

    However, if you are walking long distances, like 7km a day, then any shoe is going to get hammered, big time. Not even C&J can withstand that.
     
  9. Journeyman

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    Here are a couple of pictures of today's outfit (well, the top half, at any rate).

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    Details:

    - grey, Herringbone-weave jacket by Herringbone;
    - MTO sky blue, royal Oxford shirt by Deer Style;
    - burgundy neat silk print tie by Panta;
    - Vanda pocket square;
    - navy cotton trousers; and
    - C&J Belgraves in polo suede.
     
  10. thebrownman

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    Not a 'dumb question', at least not in my opinion. I mean the whole "worth it" thing could spark another longwinded discussion here, but if you're walking 8km a day in your dress shoes, I think that you will likely find a thin copy to be quite beneficial, or a combination leather/rubber sole. I wouldn't last a week with leather soles on concrete if I were walking 8km a day. I don't mean the shoes, just the walk. I'd die.
     
  11. Romp

    Romp Senior member

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    comfort is subjective. Sturdy english construction is seen by some as thicker/stiffer than its italian peers (generalising). Typically my italian shoes with blake construction have been softer and more comfy than my english shoes. But i love my english shoes for the durability and look good even after years. Plus I normally get blisters with english shoes in the first few weeks

    Speaking of aussie shoes i had a pair of kangaroo leather loafers that i bought for my year 12 formal many years ago now but I thought that they were the best shoes ever at the time. Suffice to say they were the softest shoes ive ever owned.
     
  12. Oli2012

    Oli2012 Senior member

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    A pair of craftsman with rubber soles would survive a nuclear winter.
     
  13. LonerMatt

    LonerMatt Senior member

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    My man, I worked out quickly a leather sole die fast. I have to get a thin rubber piece fitted to the sole.

    To be honest - I walk around 2km a day minimum in what I wear to work. Frequently 3km, occasionally (say once every 2-3 weeks) around 8km.


    Thank you for your suggestion :).
     
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  14. Gerry Nelson

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    Same here - I want the grey suede now [​IMG] I reckon they would look sick with most trousers.
    Navy and olive would have been my two choices. Let me know what you find at Pitti. When you come back, we'll have a Pitti party [​IMG]

    Right now, I have the Drizabone Jacana:
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    as well as a Barbour Beaufort in blue. The Drizabone is fairly heavy and the Barbour has it's own 'fragrance'. I want something a little different. There are some interesting looks here: http://dieworkwear.com/post/22327246041/aspesi-field-specialists
     
  15. strumpey

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    If the walking is commuting to and from work, then I'd be wearing sneakers etc then changing at work or if you couldn't be caught dead in such attire, changing a block or two away. That's a better way of ensuring the value equation comes out on your side.

    I used to walk to work and I wore an aussie brand, the shoes lasted 3 months. Never again - did the same thing in Eccos and the soles lasted years, not months. So for me, even though the Eccos cost triple, I got more than three times the length out of them.
     
  16. thebrownman

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    Gerry, I do hope something eventuates of this research. I have browsed each of the links you've posted about 3-4 months ago and sadly, in my case, nothing came of it. Please buy an Aspesi or Cucinelli jacket :)
     
  17. Romp

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    Just stick to the rules for longevity
    1) rotate your shoes - the moisture is what accelerates wear i.e. rain and walking on wet floors softens the sole and then the concrete is like sandpaper shredding it up. Also moisture from your feet kill the shoes + stink after a while. Rotating helps them dry + popping in shoe trees helps with shape and creasing

    2) Always check the weather. If its raining opt for the dainite/rubber sole shoe or a topy (im not a topy fan but others are)

    3) if you are a heel striker make sure you either fix your stride [​IMG] or get rubber heels that are easily replaced.

    4) if you are a toe roller get steel toe taps to prevent wear (i get this on all my dress shoes)

    OK - will let you know. And DAMNIT I wanted Grey! we should just share wardrobe - same size and all hehe
     
  18. Gerry Nelson

    Gerry Nelson Senior member

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    I think this one looks great:
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    That one is Aspesi but to be honest all of these look ok.
     
  19. thebrownman

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    Yeah, I like that one too. For me, I want it especially for the warmer months. In winter, I'll be reaching for something that's waterproof and keeps me warm, but in warmer months, I want something for evenings/the occasional rainy day.
     
  20. Gerry Nelson

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    This is exactly what I'm after!
     
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