Australian Members - Part II - if you read the first post, you'll get what this is all about.

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Foxhound, Feb 10, 2016.

  1. Journeyman

    Journeyman Senior member

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    I've dealt with both @Petepan and @Master-Classter and they've both been very good.

    M-C has a wider range than Pete, but he mentioned to me recently that he's getting out of selling decants of Tom Ford scents.

    That means that there may well be some deals to be had but, on the other hand, the range he offers might be smaller or he might be out of stock entirely.
     


  2. California Dreamer

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    I think he's running out of stock, although he has just offered up a couple on the Scent thread: Lavender Palm was one.
     


  3. Geoffrey Firmin

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    Is global warming affecting fashion? I've noticed a lot more jumpers with cotton/wool blends on offer locally this year more so than last. Also wool/nylon blends. Shudder.
     


  4. Foxhound

    Foxhound Senior member

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    I remember a discussion on here's couple of years ago that speculated that PJs success was partially owed to the fact that the materials used were very suitable to the Australian climate, especially when compared to many offerings Australian men were used to seeing.
     


  5. Pink Socks

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    Why only 5pm on Friday though fxh? Friday after work was the easiest time to go...recommended if you can make it - esp. if you have a wife (yours or otherwise).
     


  6. Gerry Nelson

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    I've bought from him before and he's a great, friendly guy. I'd highly recommend him as a seller.
     


  7. LonerMatt

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    I think Pjs success has largely been marketing and communication. While I think the lighter-weight fabrics are a better choice, that's also a very considered part of his/their branding.

    Getting on the menswear train at the right time and expanding in the directions people have been interested in has made the biggest difference, IMO.
     


  8. md2010

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    Yes also the fact that he offers "Bespoke " , and the fact that himself is a "Savile Row" trained "Tailor ".
    Rumour has it that he can also topy on a pair of trousers crotch to prevent premature wear and he provide a service to shrink your tailored garments for a contemporary look !
     


  9. fxh

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    Wasn't my decision. But I can say that staying open till 6.30 pm - 7.00 pm didn't get a lot more people in. People tend to take an extended lunch hour or two or knock off about 4 pm or come in Saturday. The No 1 tram stops at front door and is only 10 mins from Flinders street.

    Thee will be a small stall at Camberwell Market on Sunday with some leftovers from sale.
     


  10. LonerMatt

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    Do you think that those words make much of a difference for prospective buyers, though?

    I don't, really, and I don't think it matters much, it's like saying something is printed in the darkroom when it's actually C-type printed, there's a group of people that see that as misleading but most people won't care as long as the result is what they feel is worth paying for, hence I doubt that 4 words have much of an impact. Could be wrong.
     


  11. apropos

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    Re: PJT

    Choice of those 4 words aside, he has earned his success, built something significant from nothing, and the end product actually looks pretty good usually.

    He has also successfully incorporated some very attractive wimmenz into his firm/advertising.

    I do not begrudge him his success.
     


  12. Coxsackie

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    Agree with the above. OK so PJ himself is a shirtmaker. What exactly is a "tailor"? Is it the cutter? The stylist? The needle-and-thread person?

    I imagine there is a strict definition of the term. Anyway the business name uses "Tailors" in the plural. Good enough for me.
     


  13. The Ernesto

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    Someone who can measure up, make a pattern, cut, sew and fit.
     


  14. The Ernesto

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    Me neither. Good luck to the bloke.

    Saw him in the street in Melbourne a while ago and volunteered 'Love your clobber, Patrick'.

    He smiled and looked at me like I was an idiot. So he's pretty perceptive as well.
     
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  15. AndrewRogers

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    I understand the sentiment here but there are some distinctions that have been well and truly lost. There used to be a firm division between fitters and cutters, for example, with some expert at one task but hopeless at another. We are seeing a return of specialist fitters but really because of necessity (tailors who send garments back and forth to be made up along the way). Making, too, was often not done by the cutter but another team of specialists (pocket maker was once a job in itself). This model has changed and so our terms must, too, or at least let's not fix them prescriptively. I think we all know what these companies are getting at. I doubt anyone is being deceived and expecting one thing but receiving another. Whatever you call yourself, in a business in which you provide a considerable service along with the goods, it is the quality of that service and an effort to make the customer happy that counts and ought to be the focus of our attention. P Johnson is held out as providing that to a high degree. Dispute about that might be a real gripe and not an exercise in pedantry.

    PS Let's also not forget how culturally specific these terms are. Tailoring in Italy takes on a different model of manufacturing from, say, in the UK or even HK.
     
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