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Australian bulk buy of Saphir polish

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by stateless, Apr 7, 2011.

  1. Mork

    Mork Member

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    I'm in as well. Thanks for doing this.
     
  2. stateless

    stateless Well-Known Member

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    Alrighty. After a few days spent talking to some very nice people (Steve at Leffot, Ron at Rider Boots and Sarah at A Fine Pair of Shoes) I've determined that the cheapest way for everyone to get a few tins of polish is as follows:

    Order it yourself.

    Seriously. I can order wholesale from Ron (who is very nice, did I mention that) and charge everyone retail, but then I'd have to deal with import duties and all the hassle that entails. Sarah (who is also very nice, I might have mentioned) offered us a 10% discount if we ordered over $100 pounds and a $90 pound shipping rate for approx. 50 items.

    But by the time I added their shipping costs, plus Australian postage (cheapest I could assume was $6.30 to anywhere in Australia) the very cheapest I could get a tin of wax was about $14.70. I can get the product here cheaper than you can by yourself - but the $6 bucks Australian postage wipes out any savings I can organize for you.

    Or you can order a tin from A Fine Pair of Shoes and have it shipped here for about $15.50.

    You're all a very nice bunch, but you're not worth going to all the trouble of ordering, sorting, packaging and posting just to save you a 80 cents.

    It was a grand experiment, and I should thank the vendors that took the time to answer all my questions, but without setting up a business for profit and/or ordering a very large quantity, it's simply cheaper (almost) to buy it yourself.

    Both A Fine Pair of Shoes and Leffot ship to Australia, as does Valmour (although I've found their site broken and their prices higher than they should be) - select one of those fine vendors and place an order... just as I am about to do with A Fine Pair of Shoes in a few minutes.

    Thanks for the support though guys, sorry I couldn't come through for you.

    Cheers,
    Andrew.
     
  3. stateless

    stateless Well-Known Member

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    For those curious, the order would have to be about 100 items to make the economies of scale work for us.

    If there is that much demand I'll take another look.
     
  4. appolyon

    appolyon Senior member

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    It would probably be easier for guys in the same state to put in a group order and then share the items at a meet up to save on additional costs and packaging.
     
  5. lennier

    lennier Senior member

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    Thanks for all your efforts in investigating this stateless!
     
  6. Wrigglez

    Wrigglez Senior member

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    thanks for all that , if its not ment to be its not ment to be, not to worry.
    cheers again.
     
  7. CHECKstar

    CHECKstar Senior member

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    Great work, shame it didn't work out. That said, I think this was a great idea and I don't think us isolated Australian members should discount the idea of other group buys. I remember a while back some guy bought a truck load of shoe trees, which went quite well. Maybe we could have a think about other opportunities?
     
  8. Journeyman

    Journeyman Senior member

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    Seriously. I can order wholesale from Ron (who is very nice, did I mention that) and charge everyone retail, but then I'd have to deal with import duties and all the hassle that entails. Sarah (who is also very nice, I might have mentioned) offered us a 10% discount if we ordered over $100 pounds and a $90 pound shipping rate for approx. 50 items.



    I can entirely understand why it's too much trouble - when I placed an order with Valmour for myself and a few friends, it was rather like herding cats to get everyone to tell me precisely what colours they wanted, in polish and cream and I felt quite exhausted at the end of it.

    However, it's worth noting that you'd only have to pay import duties if the cost of the polish/cream and shipping was $1000 or more, and I suspect that it would take a fair bit of stuff to get you to that level.

    One proviso, though - courier companies like DHL and Fedex will sometimes charge you a "customs processing fee", even though there's nothing in your package that actually needs to be processed by customs and even though the cost of the product and shipping is well under $100. Personally, I consider the practice to be a rort, although I have been informed that there are sound reasons for doing it (other than increasing the bottom line of courier companies, of course)...
     
  9. stateless

    stateless Well-Known Member

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    It was a great learning experience. There are a lot of great people out there who know a lot about their products are are very willing to share.

    A Melbourne-only buy could definitely work with a smaller number of units though.

    How about this; I'm placing my order on Wed next week with A Fine Pair of Shoes (to give them time to get more Rejuvenator in), PM me if you want to add anything to the order.

    I'll let you know your share of the shipping when I finalize the order and people can pick their order up from where I work in the CBD.
     
  10. stateless

    stateless Well-Known Member

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    Gents, I will be placing my order with A Fine Pair of Shoes tomorrow night, for those in Melbourne that want to add some items to pick up. PM me and let me know what you'd like (item, color, quantity).
     
  11. stateless

    stateless Well-Known Member

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    Second-last reminder - order being placed tonight.
     
  12. anthonykirwan

    anthonykirwan New Member

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    Hi everyone. I was wondering when the next batch will be ordered? I woud love to jump on board
     
  13. Joseph Jessenby

    Joseph Jessenby New Member

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    Hi Andrew

    I am interested as well.

    Please let me know the availability and cost.


    -Joseph

    you can call me on 0433 029 729 as well.
     
  14. SaminSydney

    SaminSydney New Member

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    Hi

    Anyone in Sydney thinking of doing an order. I would like to order their suede cleaner, renovator and black pommadier cream.

    if not, what is the best website to order from in person that is reasonably priced?

    Thanks
     
  15. peterr

    peterr New Member

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    yes andrew i want to purchase the following items
    renivator
    light gray polish
    light gray wax
    light brown polish
    light brown wax
    neutral polish
    neutral wax
    orange polish
    orange wax
    my email address is preedman@bigpond.net.au
    thank you
    peter
     
  16. designated

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    Thanks Andrew. Great idea.

    I'm interested in medium brown wax and creme polish and the Saphir Pommadier applicator Brush. From Sydney by the way.
     
  17. SpallaCamicia

    SpallaCamicia Active Member

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    Dear all

    Thanks Andrew for coming up with this idea on a bulk purchase for Saphir Polish. The original post was made a while ago so I hope it was a success.

    I don't want to hijack this thread so Andrew if you are running this again please let me know.

    Otherwise there seems to be some interest for another order so I would be happy to put my hand up to arrange another order. I have ordered before from Saphirs own distributor valmour.com and found it to be the best price. I also swear by the Creme Surfin and the Universal Cream Polish, pretty much the best shoe polish you can get at a very reasonable price.

    I have done some numbers and it comes out as follows (currently I have 23 units and growing by the day).

    * Creme Surfin Polish: A$5.85 + $3.42 shipping = A$9.27 landed in Oz
    Product type:
    http://www.afinepairofshoes.co.uk/products/saphir-creme-surfine-cream-shoe-polish-50ml

    * Universal Cream Polish 150ml = A$8.81 + A$5.15 shipping = A$13.96
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    http://m.hangerproject.com/item/363732
    * Universal Cream Polish 500ml = A$21.18 + A$11.48 shipping = A$32.66

    For the Creme Surfin I checked ebay and they were going for A$9.96 plus A$9.33 shipping = A$19.29 so I think this is a pretty good deal.

    And the more purchases we get here, the cheaper it gets! As we are getting it posted we get the VAT taken off plus I have used a 5% discount coupon, win!

    Just like Andrew please note there's no profit or skim in this at all. I'm happy to circulate a spreadie which shoes all the costs, everyone order to it's all above board (with receipt).

    Look forward to hearing from those who are interested, again I hope the original poster Andrew doesn't mind me doing this, just want to keep a good thing going.

    I'm looking to round out the orders in two weeks time, so do PM or reply to this thread soon!

    Cheers,
    SC



    To keep it simple I'm thinking that this may be a Sydney based order so I can the items to you. Pick up preferred Inner West or CBD drop off also available. Ps also I realise I'm new to Style Forum so I go easy on me!
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2014
  18. Aruson

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    Would it be possible for a Melbournian to join the bulk order? I'd be interested if the prices are still decent :)
     
  19. SpallaCamicia

    SpallaCamicia Active Member

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    Hey mate absolutely the more the merrier. Feel free to see how your syndication network goes with the Melbournites and just advise me your total numbers in the end or I can just grab yours. I'll just post it down to you and advise you of the cost.
     

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