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Audio/Video media configuration question

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by lefty, Jan 14, 2013.

  1. lefty

    lefty Senior member

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    My new place has a media closet with a rolling rack and a shit ton of wires.

    There are speakers built into the walls as well as a subwoofer.
    There are speaker wire connections for a surround sound system - front, two sides. No rear.
    There is an amp for the subwoofer on a rack in the closet.
    There FIOS box built in as well as a WIFI SSID "PHB".
    There is an etherent hub with 20 ethernet cables strung throughout the house and jacks in every room. Coaxial as well.


    Over the fireplace are AV component jacks as well as three ethernet ports.

    I have no idea what to do with all this stuff.

    Will probably pick up a new Samsung TV - do they have ethernet jacks? Assuming I put a cable box, DVD player, Roku in the closet I guess I need an RF remote to control them through the door. Not sure how I can wire to the TV through one set of component cables - can I use the etherent cables for DVD and Roku? Or do I pull all the ethernet cables and snake HDMI cables through?

    My stereo is a peachtree with an iphone dock and paradigm speakers. I guess I can also put that in the closet and wire to the speakers in the walls as well as the surround for TV watching, but I really like these paradigms. The subwoofer cable from the amp simply snakes up 2 metres and returns. There is no jack to connect it to the built in sub. Unless it's meant to connect to the ethernet hub.

    I need a NYC media geek to configure all this. Any recommendations?

    signed
    hopeless in harlem
     
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  2. Rambo

    Rambo Senior member

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    first question would be what type of setup are you looking for?

    much of that sounds unnecessary for what you listed you have/will have.

    As for Samsung's ethernet jacks, it really depends on the model. You'd need to check it out to be sure. For a media guy like yourself, I'd probably recommend a plasma over an LCD. Richer looking picture.

    BTW - the best time to buy a TV is between now and the superbowl. New models are coming out, older ones are being discontinued, and there's a shitton of sales.
     
  3. lefty

    lefty Senior member

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    I think nearly all of it is unnecessary as all I do is watch a little TV and listent to music. However, I do want my wires hidden. Will take some pics tomorrow.

    So TV - DVD - Roku (though I guess a smart TV will have that netflix option) - Stereo.

    I'm tempted to pull the three ethernet cables and the component cables and just feed four HDMI cables through that wall. Not sure how to hook up the stereo or which would be the better speaker configuration. And if I use the ethernet does that mean that I can feed a DVD or cable through to another room?

    Don't love the idea of having to pick up a $300 RF remote.

    I guess I could being an editor in to figure it all out.

    Plasma NG as the room is awash with light from windows on three walls.

    lefty
     
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  4. Rambo

    Rambo Senior member

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    Do you have a receiver? Is this a one room only setup? Why would you need a $300 remote???
     
  5. lefty

    lefty Senior member

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    Integrated amp. Peachtree iNova. Use a Tivoli for a radio signal.

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    One room setup. But there are built in speakers in the master bath and coaxial/ethernet jacks in every other room.

    If I throw all components behind the door of the media closet then I believe I need a RF controller like the Harmony 900.

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    Would prefer not to have to open the door to change the channel. I would consider having the peachtree outside, but then have to deal with the speaker wires. As the place is prewired and being painted as we speak I want to use what is there.

    lefty
     
  6. Rambo

    Rambo Senior member

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    definitely sounds like this guy had his whole house wired for sound and with a media server.

    i'd need to see pics of the whole setup. you don't need an "editor" or a "media guy". so long as you only want it in one room, all you'd need is an AV tech. hell, you could even get one of the Best Buy Geek Squad guys and offer him $20 an hour to knock it out real quick.
     
  7. lefty

    lefty Senior member

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    Media server is just storage and streaming device, isn't it? Connect to the internet and download/stream. What I need is the way to integrate everything I have. A single hub that connects all. Perhaps that's what the ethernet server is.

    Thanks for the help. Will take pics tomorrow.

    lefty
     
  8. lefty

    lefty Senior member

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    The pics...


    The TV wall.
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    Closer with front and right side speaker jack, power on left and component/ethernet on right. Who configures a wall like this?
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    Close on component/ethernet.
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    1.5 metres to the right of FP - two etherent/one phone jacks
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    Closer.
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    The rack and closet.
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    Power and preamp.
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    Ethernet.
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    More power.
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    Racked pulled with shit ton of wires.
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    Back of preamp with both ends of SW cable - there is no place to plug the free end.
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    More ethernet/coaxial cables heading God knows where. Green-yellow wire?
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    Closer.
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    Built in modem and router.
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    Large component heading to FP - no idea where all that coaxial is going.
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    No idea what this is. Random numbers on labels.
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    More ethernet and I guess phone cable. No idea what the green-yellow cable is.
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    SW - no idea how to connect this.
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    Random jack in another room - coaxial and ethernet?
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    Coaxial and phone? 6 phone lines?
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    Will probably post this on a AV tech forum, but any ideas? Am strongly considering sealing the room and getting rabbit ears.

    lefty
     
  9. Rambo

    Rambo Senior member

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    holy shit. that's definitely a pro setup right there but its also the shittiest looking setup I've seen in a while. Not exactly sure what he was running there.

    Ok, so basically you want to mount a TV on the black wall and your paradigms around it and the peachtree resting on top of the fireplace?
     
  10. ter1413

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    Dude got a custom job with all the bells and whistles and didn't think that he would one day move and sell/rent the place. It will be hard to utilize all what he had without his setup.
     
  11. lefty

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    Great, 'cause I actually need the closet space. Maybe I'll just sell some of this shit and use the existing wire routes to lay in new HDMI and power cords. Was really hoping I could hide the cable/DVD player.

    lefty
     
  12. lefty

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    Well, the home theatre guys were very helpful. I can use the ethernet switcher with an HDMI extender to configure. Use the PT to route everything through. The built-in speakers/sub are quite good, but I may still use the PDs for just music. Pick up a sound bar instead of using 5 surround sound speakers which I don't particularly care about.

    Am toying with the idea of ripping out the built-on shelves and stone tops. Seriously pissed about the configuration of that wall. Why the hell weren't these all grouped together in the middle. Now I have to move the com/ethernet box as well as the power into the middle of the wall. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like he left much slack in the wires.

    lefty
     
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  13. aravenel

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    That is f*cking legit.

    Wonder how well the wall-mounted sub would work. Never seen that before.
     
  14. lefty

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    The problem is that it's "too legit to quit" so I need to work with it. There may be some wall ripping to come. I just hope he laid all the cable through pvc pipes.

    What's the issue with the sub?

    lefty
     
  15. aravenel

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    Subs are non-directional, so I'd think that isolating a large part of the speakerbox in the wall might have some effect on its sound. I'd also worry about it rattling the walls a lot, but I suppose you could get around that.

    Also, those must be some seriously deep walls to be able to bury the whole thing back in there. Most subs are a good 12-16+" deep.

    I have no idea, it could work great, I've just never seen it.
     
  16. lefty

    lefty Senior member

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    It is right beside the media closet so plenty deep. I can't imagine he had a problem but I guess I'll find out when I crank it to 11.

    Anyone know what the hell this is?

    [​IMG]

    lefty
     
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  17. SkinnyGoomba

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    You can't throw rocks at my house, then put your TV above the fireplace.

    Overall, I think it's a cool setup, hard to ignore in-wall speakers, aside from the sub, as being a pretty nice setup. The wire running is pretty awesome as well, especially if most of it ends up completely hidden.

    Take out the shelving if you like, but I think it would be better yet floor to ceiling shelving/bookcases.

    I think it's owed to a modern install not to have the tchotchke area above the fireplace, would be better just flush.
     
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  18. lefty

    lefty Senior member

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    Yeah, I know. And my wife is not too happy. This is the only time in our lives we've had a TV in the LR, but such is life in the big city.

    The only other option is a smallish bedroom where the TV/movie watching experience would be less than ideal.

    We're going to try it out and see how we go.

    What do you think about ripping out the built-in cabinets? Looks like melamine with a corian/cesar stone top. Now that I've added colour they look like shit and I would love to recover that lost floor and wall space.

    The chimney just has the first of four coats on in that pic. Colour is much darker and I am painting the stone surround in a high gloss black until I figure out what I want for a mantle.

    lefty
     
  19. SkinnyGoomba

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    So there is a facade for the fireplace?

    If you did not need the extra room my thoughts are - floor to ceiling bookcases in white lacquer or dark wood. But if you do need the extra room, it would not be heartbreaking in the least to see those little shelves tossed out.

    If you do layout the living room around a TV above the fireplace I can't see actually needing that particular space. Since you will be facing in that direction.

    Also, if you just simply don't want to look at them, I see no harm in removing them.
     
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  20. lefty

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    Facade? Yeah the grey stone is cemented on. That's what I'll paint black. And the baseboard around the FP will be blue. Should have removed the BB to have the volume of chimney just rise from the floor as a block. Oh well.

    I don't want to look at them, but maybe once they're filled with books they may not be too bad. I will either put two large buddhas on each side of the FP or hang large art. Love to be able to paint them, but painter doesn't think they will take it and just peel.

    lefty
     

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