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Audi S5 vs BMW 335 xi

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by anginaprinzmetal, Oct 9, 2011.

Audi S5 vs BMW 335 xi

  1. Audi S5

    18 vote(s)
    85.7%
  2. BMW 335 xi

    3 vote(s)
    14.3%
  1. HRoi

    HRoi Senior member

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    yeah M3 would be a no-brainer recommendation IMO if the OP hadn't insisted on having AWD.

    OP, why do you say you 'want AWD even though you don't need it'?
     
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  2. username79

    username79 Senior member

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    Just read the above where OP says he (she?) got an A5 and is happy with it. Nevermind. If someone chooses a 3600lb 211hp car over a 335 don't think they cared too much about performance.
     
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  3. anginaprinzmetal

    anginaprinzmetal Senior member

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    just to clarify the OP is HE
    secondly I do care about performance but also realize that need to budget things so I'll wait for what I really want an S5 with 3.0 turbo, not the current V8 which feels really heavy.
    thirdly I like AWD b/c of the way I drive. I realize after having driven rear and AWD cars that I much prefer AWD. It's more forgiving if you know what I mean.
    finally, I don't think you should compare the M3 to S5. The direct M3 comparison would be the RS5, and I don't think the M3 would come up so well in that comparison
     
  4. anginaprinzmetal

    anginaprinzmetal Senior member

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    oh and by the way I think I actually put a lot of value on aesthetics, what can I say ??? :satisfied:
     
  5. GreenFrog

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    The RS5 is also vastly more expensive than the M3.
     
  6. username79

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    I wasn't trying to insult you by claiming you don't care about performance.If it what makes you happy, that's cool, but a 335 is around the same price point and is a significantly faster and better performing car. The A5 performs on par with a BMW 328. Granted, it is better looking, and there's nothing wrong with prioritizing that.

    Not really sure what you mean about RWD vs AWD. I have way more traction than I can possibly use without being completely reckless on the street in my RWD M3. Maybe you are driving in winter conditions a lot.

    The M3 is a 50-60K car as I have said. The RS5 will be sold for 105K in the USA in 2012. That is around DOUBLE the price. The M3 and the S5 sell for the same price in the USA. Therefore the direct comparison to the S5 is the M3.

    As for the M3 vs the RS5 (a 50K vs. a 100K car): the M3 has already been compared by Car and Driver to the RS5 (and the CTS-V). The M3 won that particular comparison.

    Read here:

    http://www.caranddriver.com/compari...0-bmw-m3-2011-cadillac-cts-v-comparison-tests
     
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  7. stevent

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    In the two cars you listed I voted for the S5.

    But having driven both, I'd take a bimmer anyday. And picking up a lease return makes them very affordable and you still have warranty for a year or two.
     
  8. anginaprinzmetal

    anginaprinzmetal Senior member

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    Is the M3 a more balanced car ? may be...

    Is the M3 faster ? may be...

    I'd still take the A5/S5 b/c stylewise is way way prettier... that's all... is this subjective ? sure... that's all
     
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  9. username79

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    Aston Martin Vantage or Audi RS5?
     
  10. anginaprinzmetal

    anginaprinzmetal Senior member

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    ^ let me guess, you drive an M3 right?
     
  11. username79

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    Obviously, notice where I said in an earlier post: "S5 was more expensive than my M3 when I did comparison shopping earlier this year."

    In any case, I am wondering if you'd pick RS5 vs. Aston Martin Vantage. They will be around the same price. RS5 is gorgeous but the Vantage, at least to me, is on another level.

    Saw an A5 on the road today. They are definitely :drool:
     
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  12. whiteslashasian

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    Def take the Aston over the Audi RS5. Like nothing else you see, except for another Aston (sorta look like a beefier BMW Z8 though, those are :drool:)

    A5, S5's are becoming fairly common here in NYC. I still rarely see any Astons. I see waaaaay more Ferraries, Lambos, Porsches (high end ones). Astons are something else.
     
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  13. anginaprinzmetal

    anginaprinzmetal Senior member

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    of course I'd take the Aston, but I believe the Aston would be way more expensive than an RS5 right? I have no idea...
    At any rate, Aston is my all time favorite car... one can only dream...
     
  14. impolyt_one

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    I've seen the RS5 around here, it actually looks douche-y compared to just a regular A5 with a decent amount of trim - the S stuff is too chrome-y and flashy, the RS stuff is rice-y looking. In any case - nice way to make a $100K car look like a $40K one with $5K of 'mods'

    FWIW I think the Vantage is too small looking to really express 'the Aston language' - I'd rather have a Carrera of the same value instead.
     
  15. Blackhood

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    Maybe american pricing is screwed, but an RS5 is about £75k when spec'd up nicely. even an Aston Martin is £85k with no extras. You're looking at £130k for a decent non-entry level Aston, but for that money you could have an Audi R8 V12.
     
  16. username79

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    U.S. pricing can be very different.

    RS5 is on sale in Europe starting at 68K euro (91K USD). Reports say that the 2012 RS5 when offered in the USA will start at 105K. The Aston V8 Vantage is 120K MSRP though Aston supposedly has a hard time selling too many Vantages here, has many dealer incentives vs. the RS5 which will be in very limited quantity and likely even marked up above MSRP. So I would expect them to be obtainable for the same $ amount.

    The RS5 offers roughly equivalent performance to the M3 which makes the M3 an absolutely incredible value in the states, considering the M3 costs 1/2 of the RS5. However, it's a different story in Europe. RS5 is 68K euro while the M3 is actually about the same price.. 67K euro base I believe. A well optioned M3 is a 110K+ USD car in Europe.

    Interesting that the M3 costs 50-60K USD here but 90K+ USD in Europe, and that the RS5 will apparently have the opposite pricing. Supposedly a nicely optioned M3 costs 110-120K USD in Germany. This was actually evident when I picked mine up via European Delivery. People would give me a look like "who the fuck is that guy?" and kids would ask to sit in it and take pictures while in the States no one gives a shit.
     
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  17. HRoi

    HRoi Senior member

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    the RS5 is one of the sexiest cars out there but there's no way i'm paying $40k over the price of an M3. and that's MSRP - even before the shady American dealers get a hold of what must be a limited availability vehicle and play their BS pricing games
     
  18. impolyt_one

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    hah! I didn't realize that til now but you're right, here in Japan the RS5 and the M3 with the competition pack are the same price as well (the M3 is actually 5k more) - both are like, $150K cars at exchange rate, which is raping us right now...

    It's no secret that BMW has been dumping on the US market for years, though - they all do, and they will continue to do so since the USD is so shitty. When the E46 M3 came out, the Euro was at parity with the dollar basically... but kind of sickening that they are dumping cars in America at half price now.
     

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