Audemars Piguet

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Miguel Antonio, Mar 15, 2008.

  1. chronic

    chronic Senior member

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    I too, love the smaller size RO. My only complaint with AP is too many "limited editions" that are anything but. Pick any F1 team, sailing team, etc. and there is a "LE" -- ridiculous prices too.

    Twotone


    Have you seen the Shaq limited edition one? Looks horrible, what with the 3 and the 2 reversed and whatnot. Plus, he's not even with the Heat anymore...
     


  2. Tomasso

    Tomasso Senior member

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    Vacheron Constantin is a relic and Patek Philippe is old fashioned.
    What a silly thing to say.
     


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    If you observe their websites, you'll notice AP is more contemporary. Followed by PP and last VC. I'm not equating big fat watches with "innovation", I'm saying AP is more contemporary. If you want innovation a F.P. Journe is a better option.
    I don't see how being more "contemporary" makes them the new "king." The different companies have created separate brand identities to appeal to different clients and individuals with different tastes. For someone on a fashion forum, it seems like a remarkably ignorant thing to say. It's like trying to compare Consuelo Castiglioni's (Marni) clothes with Raf Simons or Ennio Capasa's (Costume) designs. They have very different takes on what "fashion" is and design clothes quite differently from each other. If you personally prefer AP watches that's all fine and good, but I think you'll have a hard time convincing the rest of us of your opinion, especially those of us that have different tastes from yours.
     


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    spertia Senior member

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    I really like the original, thin steel 70's RO with the raw finish on the bracelet.

    How much does a vintage '70s one like that go for these days?
     


  5. Miguel Antonio

    Miguel Antonio Senior member

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    “If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it”.
    Albert Einstein


    "In this great[vague] Swiss Manufacture of watches, the torch of the founders of the company continues to be carried by their successors in hot line. Since 1882, the members of the Audemars families and Piguet sat always at the Board of directors and thus directly or indirectly ran the company." Wikipedia

    That's enough fo me, that commands a lot of respect, as no other traditional watch maker can claim that. I cannot think of a better contender to Patek Philippe.
     


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    Eustace Tilley Senior member

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    "In this great[vague] Swiss Manufacture of watches, the torch of the founders of the company continues to be carried by their successors in hot line. Since 1882, the members of the Audemars families and Piguet sat always at the Board of directors and thus directly or indirectly ran the company." Wikipedia

    That's enough fo me, that commands a lot of respect, as no other traditional watch maker can claim that. I cannot think of a better contender to Patek Philippe.


    And that makes them the new "king"? You're grasping at straws here. Why don't you just be honest and go ahead and say "I like AP, and I don't care for PP or VC"
     


  7. Miguel Antonio

    Miguel Antonio Senior member

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    I don't even like AP. I prefer A. Lange & Söhne.
    However I like the equation of time model, Jules
    Audemars from Audemars Piguet.

    This thread was given birth thanks to this article:
    http://www.thepurists.com/watch/apppvcprimer.html

    Please provide critique to the article in question and
    to my choice of watch. (Equation of time, Jules Audemars)
     


  8. Coho

    Coho Senior member

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    no matter what marketers try to tell you, horology is a mature science. The numerous "innovations" are no more than novelties of an old concept that has been tweaked to death over the years. I haven't seen anything that can be justifiably labeled as a punctuated leap in technology regarding mechanical timing devices. My ETA 2824 runs -1 second a day and about 3-5 seconds slow a weak. Beat that Lange-o-tourbillon-minute-repeater-o-graph! Let's face it, modern mechanical watches are jewelries and status symbol. Anyone who convinces you otherwise is a clever jeweler.
     


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    no matter what marketers try to tell you, horology is a mature science. The numerous "innovations" are no more than novelties of an old concept that has been tweaked to death over the years. I haven't seen anything that can be justifiably labeled as a punctuated leap in technology regarding mechanical timing devices. My ETA 2824 runs -1 second a day and about 3-5 seconds slow a weak. Beat that Lange-o-tourbillon-minute-repeater-o-graph! Let's face it, modern mechanical watches are jewelries and status symbol. Anyone who convinces you otherwise is a clever jeweler.

    What kills me is the watch forums that encourage, no, DEMAND regular posts of 'lookey what I bought'. So you go out on a regular basis and spend hundreds/thousands of dollars - whatever you can credit card or line of credit and make these posts so you can get oohs and ahs. [​IMG]
     


  10. Miguel Antonio

    Miguel Antonio Senior member

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    Also some watch collectors have a genuine interest in watches or horology.
     


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    Also some watch collectors have a genuine interest in watches or horology.

    Perhaps so. Perhaps also a genuine interest in receiving accolades from strangers.
     


  12. Miguel Antonio

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    I feel envy and resentment in your words, but I could be confusing envy with detachment. Perhaps you should be on some philosophy or socialism forums.
     


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    Perhaps so. Perhaps also a genuine interest in receiving accolades from strangers.

    I've received less than 20 comments/compliments on ANY watch I currently own or have owned in the past (FWIW, the most complimented watch I own is a scratched up Fossil). Only watch people care about watches.... unless it's Rolex or Cartier.

    Btw, Rolex is still the King (of sales).
    Hublot gets the nod for Kind of Marketing (Runner-Up Zenith)
    Audemars is King of Celebrities
    Panerai is King of Testosterone
    Seiko is the Ugly Stepchild of Swiss Watchmaking
     


  14. Miguel Antonio

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    Seiko is innovative. Fluid motion of Spring Drive models
    comes to mind.
     


  15. norcaltransplant

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    Seiko is innovative. Fluid motion of Spring Drive models
    comes to mind.


    Just because Seiko is creative and innovative does not disqualify the company from being an Ugly Stepchild. In my experience, most reps from Swiss companies begrudingly give Seiko their due respect.
     


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