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  1. Get Smart

    Get Smart Don't Crink

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    speaking of hynosis, is it true that you can only hypnotize someone who believes in it or otherwise subconsciously believes it's possible....that you can't hypnotize a sceptic?
     


  2. Nouveau Pauvre

    Nouveau Pauvre Senior member

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    Best of luck with it, and if I am ever in the area, I'll definitely drop in! and incidently, [​IMG] : edit: btw, have you read "Carter beats the Devil" by Glen David Gold, or some of Clive Barker's works? And a great magician's turnaround song that I like: The Police's "Wrapped around your finger"
    I've never read Barker - he is a horror writer? I do enjoy some Steven King, so give me a good specific title to read. Carter Beats The Devil has been on my to-do list. Maybe I'll finally pick it up this weekend.
    Are the gracefully palmed joy buzzer and the deftly concealed whoopie cushion considered magic ?
    I wouldn't....
    why don't magicians say "Abracadabra" anymore?
    Plenty of magicians actually do use it. I like to present my work in a serious light so I avoid many of the campier conventions (magic wands, bunnies etc) There are some very talented magicians who do use and say these things - but this is not my style.
     


  3. Nouveau Pauvre

    Nouveau Pauvre Senior member

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    speaking of hynosis, is it true that you can only hypnotize someone who believes in it or otherwise subconsciously believes it's possible....that you can't hypnotize a sceptic?
    Essentially yes. This is a really interesting and complex area. Strong hypnosis definitely requires the participant being willing and wanting it to work. You can hypnotize a skeptic because many skeptics enjoy magic and hypnosis and allow it to happen - but if you have someone staunchly not wanting it to work it probably won't. I use a gentler technique, a sort of applied hypnosis, that many magicians refer to as "Suggestion." I also generally use young females as my participants (it doesn't work better on women, but they tend to be much more responsive when it does work.) This, in tandem with my devilish grin and charming persona ensures I rarely fail. [​IMG]
     


  4. whodini

    whodini Conan OOOOOOO"BRIEN!

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    This, in tandem with my devilish grin and charming persona ensures I'm on sexual predator lists in several counties along the East Coast.

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    Fixed. [​IMG]
     


  5. sho'nuff

    sho'nuff grrrrrrrr!!

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    the stuff where david blaine balances on a 100 foot pole for a couple of days, or is underwater for a few days or living in a box for a month,

    that is not illusory tricks anywhere, just plain old him bearing it out and doing it? these are not just magic tricks but just endurance tests , no?

    what i dont get is if these are actual endurance tests, he should be breaking some world records or setting them, but they dont go in to guiness world records, so that implies to me there is some trickery involved. no?
     


  6. Nouveau Pauvre

    Nouveau Pauvre Senior member

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    Fixed. [​IMG]
    [​IMG] .....just wait till we have a magic-off!
    the stuff where david blaine balances on a 100 foot pole for a couple of days, or is underwater for a few days or living in a box for a month, that is not illusory tricks anywhere, just plain old him bearing it out and doing it? these are not just magic tricks but just endurance tests , no? what i dont get is if these are actual endurance tests, he should be breaking some world records or setting them, but they dont go in to guiness world records, so that implies to me there is some trickery involved. no?
    Indeed. Most of Blaine's physical feats have been genuine. There is a long tradition of magicians mixing feats of physical prowess and endurance with magic. This first really came in to the public eye with Houdini. IT's a cool area but one Ihaven't really explored.
     


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    I've never read Barker - he is a horror writer? I do enjoy some Steven King, so give me a good specific title to read. Carter Beats The Devil has been on my to-do list. Maybe I'll finally pick it up this weekend....
    Yes, Barker is a horror/fantasy writer (remember the character "pinhead"?). He has several books which revolve around the 'Art'. One his novels that I am rather fond of is called "The Thief of Always".
     


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    Are the animals ever injured/killed as part of a trick? (Like in The Prestige where the bird is crushed in the collapsing cage).
     


  9. Nouveau Pauvre

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    Are the animals ever injured/killed as part of a trick? (Like in The Prestige where the bird is crushed in the collapsing cage).

    The death of animals used to be a common motif in magic. There was a particularly gruesome effect where a picture of a chicken would be stabbed in the neck, causing a nearby, actual chicken to die.

    This was gone by the mid twentieth, largely due to changing public sensibility. Nowadays great precautions are taken to make sure everything remains humane for animals in magic.
     


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    Which do you like better as a movie...The Prestige or The Illusionist?
     


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    Also, what do you think of Uri Geller?
     


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    The death of animals used to be a common motif in magic. There was a particularly gruesome effect where a picture of a chicken would be stabbed in the neck, causing a nearby, actual chicken to die.

    Oh man, that would be so sweet to watch. Do you know how that was done or if there is any footage of said trick?
     


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    Have you ever used magic to do what is advertised in a big number of spam e-mails, without a surgery?
     


  14. Nouveau Pauvre

    Nouveau Pauvre Senior member

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    Which do you like better as a movie...The Prestige or The Illusionist?
    I prefer the Illusionist. Which is odd because i'm a huge fan of the whole Nolan clique (Christian Bale, Micheal Caine e.t.c. The Illusionist is just a very fun, beautifully shot fantasy piece. Paul Giamatti always steals the show and Ed Norton is excellent. The Prestige, which started out very well, ended up toppling under the weight of it's sci-fi conceit. Still both are well worth a watch.
    Also, what do you think of Uri Geller?
    Mixed opinions. I have a lot of respect for his success and think he was a great performer. On the other hand, I find the ethics of the situation unfortunate - I think it's very wrong to claim genuine psychic powers. ...still I almost feel as if the people who got duped, deserved it.
     


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    Oh man, that would be so sweet to watch. Do you know how that was done or if there is any footage of said trick?
    Haha, no. The performances of effects like this predate television/cinema.
    Have you ever used magic to do what is advertised in a big number of spam e-mails, without a surgery?
    I've thought about it, but who really needs a wand bigger then 8 inches anyway? [​IMG]
     


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