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  1. fritzl

    fritzl Senior member

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    it's a standard. i was more concerned about the patterned shirt.
     


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    Hi guys I'm starting to build my shoe collection. Relatively casual office environment here only slacks and dress shirts no suits and ties.

    I'm thinking of cap toes but can't decide whether I should get brown (what shade?), black or burgundy.

    Also need ideas for a 2nd pair to get the rotation going as well? Was thinking about double monks, but they seem to be in fashion right now so might want to avoid that :(

    Also I'm a heavy set guy, 200lbs and 5'11 so was wondering if bulkier shoes like longwings/gunboats would be better? Not sure if I can fit all tht slim sexy stuff haha!
     


  3. Gauss17

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    The black cap toe is considered by many to be the quintessential business shoe, that said, I am not a huge fan of cap toes. Black is also the standard business shoe, so if you work in the office, I would highly recommend at least one good black shoe. After that it depends on what color slacks you usually wear, I personally wear mainly grey and navy, so I find burgundy is the ideal choice to match these two colors. You could also easily go with brown, I just personally think burgundy is a better choice if I had to choose between them. Pick whichever shoe style you like best, if that is cap-toe, then get a cap-toe. You can mix it up as you please. Double monks are a bit flashy and would not be my first choice when starting a shoe collection, but this is just one opinion. For the record, I am a HUGE fan of the cordovan longwing/gunboat style shoes.
     


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    The black cap toe is considered by many to be the quintessential business shoe, that said, I am not a huge fan of cap toes. Black is also the standard business shoe, so if you work in the office, I would highly recommend at least one good black shoe. After that it depends on what color slacks you usually wear, I personally wear mainly grey and navy, so I find burgundy is the ideal choice to match these two colors. You could also easily go with brown, I just personally think burgundy is a better choice if I had to choose between them. Pick whichever shoe style you like best, if that is cap-toe, then get a cap-toe. You can mix it up as you please. Double monks are a bit flashy and would not be my first choice when starting a shoe collection, but this is just one opinion. For the record, I am a HUGE fan of the cordovan longwing/gunboat style shoes.

    (Sorry for the double post, the quote failed somehow).
     
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    Two would be better (one good pair of black dress shoes) ....unless he is to hop all day. :)
     
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    Here is a question:

    I notice Tailored Suits Paris is hated on style forum. Why is that?
     


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    I've never had anything custom made without a second fitting... in HK or elsewhere.
     


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    trying to figure out what tie will go well with this shirt considering my dark navy suit. dont really like that tie at all. this is so hard! ...yet fun.

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    You're welcome.

    I don't care for cutaway collars, but that's just me. If that type of collar works for you, so be it.

    As for the lilac gingham shirt... look, I probably wouldn't wear it with a dark navy suit to a wedding. I'm not saying it's the worst idea I've ever heard (since I've heard about some truly hideous ideas, here on SF), just that most likely I wouldn't do it, okay? If you like the idea, fine.

    But if you don't like it, tell your girlfriend that you think a lilac gingham cutaway collar shirt is just a little too fashion forward for your comfort zone. (This makes it sound like you recognize it as a great idea, but your pitiful heterosexual male mind is simply too limited to truly embrace it.) Then add that you think lilac is a wonderful choice, so you're going to incorporate that color into your tie or pocket square. And thank her for coming up with lilac. Hell, as you walk away from her, mutter "lilac... why didn't I think of that...," just loudly enough for her to overhear.

    Handled this way, you'll probably avoid pissing off your girlfriend. And there are plenty of tasteful ties and pocket squares which have a little lilac in them. Within certain limits, there's nothing wrong with lilac.

    Otherwise, if you want to go the confrontational route, tell her that since she's choosing your shirt for you, you're going to select her dress. After all, if she can choose your clothes for you, it's only fair that you choose her clothes for her, right? At this point, she'll either agree to let you choose your own shirts, or you'll need to find someone else to take to the wedding. :)

    Not at all.

    Sure, black is a safe choice with a navy suit. It's not necessarily the best choice, but it's an unobjectionable choice.

    Personally, I like wearing burgundy or merlot colored shoes with navy suits. I often prefer them to brown, as a matter of fact.

    Like I said, black's not necessarily the best choice, but it's the safe choice. Even if you're not going to earn any SF bonus points for wearing black AE Park Avenues, matching black shoes with a navy suit won't leave you looking like a tool.
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    Hahaha, wow, thanks! Oddly enough, I showed her the lilac gingham shirt among some other choices. She loved it. I actually really like the shirt! So, it's not really an issue of her picking my shirt for me. I gave her the option and really like it. It's just finding a tie that calms down the loudness of the shirt.

    In terms of the shoes, I know full well that navy suits can be worn well with black shoes (or brown, burgundy, merlot, etc). What I was concerned about was if the rules change seeing as how a lilac shirt is thrown in the mix. I think you see what I'm saying :)

    I know Gingham dress shirts (or cutaway collars) are not for everyone. But this is gonna be a fairly upbeat, summery wedding. As long as I'm wearing a suit, I'll be fine :). No one will be wearing a tux except maybe the groom/groomsmen.
     


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    Maybe a grey tie of some sort?

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    Lol, that's awesome. For what it's worth, I don't think that having a lilac shirt would detract from wearing brown or burgundy shoes, although I probably would go with brown myself in that instance.
     


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    I get you. But black shoes are just about always acceptable with a navy suit. It doesn't really matter what other colors are in play in the shirt or tie.

    Oh, and since you mentioned finding a tie that'll calm down the loudness of the shirt, I'd recommend a solid blue tie. I mean, navy suit, navy tie, lilac gingham shirt. Trust me, it works just fine; let the shirt do all the heavy lifting for you. Plus, if you don't already own a nice solid navy tie, this gives you an excuse to buy one. (It's a staple. You'll get plenty of use out of it.)

    If you want to do the tie on the cheap, you can go to www.thetiebar.com and search for 12327, it ought to take you to "Solid Texture - Midnight Navy" tie. Pure woven silk. $15. (Number 22455 is the same tie, but 3" wide, instead of 3.5".) Not the finest tie in the world, but I have a few ties from The Tie Bar, and they're more than adequate for most purposes.

    If you don't mind spending some money, you've got plenty of choices. But Sam Hober does make one heck of a tie.
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    Thank you so much! I was leaning towards a solid navy. And I dont have a solid one. I was hoping for the Sam Hober Navy Grenadine Fina Silk #11, but the wedding is in 3 weeks and I dont wanna risk shipment delays considering they're bespoke MTM and all. I have my eyes on a really beautiful Turnbull & Asser navy silk on ebay that ends later tonight, but if not, I may check out that Tie Bar option. for 15 bucks I guess I can't go wrong :)


    And thanks for the tips on the shoes. If I can swing a nice pair of brown/burgundy shoes in the next couple weeks I'll try, if not, black it is.
     


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    this is for crusinig on the croisette in a bentley azure, not for your purpose.
     


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    what's going on here? you've already been set on the black shoes, which are appropriate. why do you want to wear brown shoes now to a wedding???

    i abstain my comment on the shirt.
     
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