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Ask A Question, Get An Answer... - Post All Quick Questions Here (Classic menswear)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Master-Classter, Sep 28, 2008.

  1. scoredtx

    scoredtx Active Member

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    Well said. Light blue shirt solves the problem. [Life Lesson #38: The wedding is really all about the bride, everything else -- even the groom to a large extent -- is sort of an accessory.]
     
  2. amathew

    amathew Senior member

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    Noob here, don't kill me.

    Every time I flip through the various shoe threads (Carmina, C&J, etc) I notice that a lot of people love dark brown shoes. Being new into mens fashion, I only a small shoe collection, but my collection doesn't have any dark brown shoes because I don't like the look. Plus, I go crazy over walnut and burgundy dress shoes. I'm wondering if I should look into investing in a pair of dark brown dress shoes? are they a versatile color?
    Should I look into leather dress shoes or suede dress shoes in dark brown?

    I'm likely going to buy them from Meermin as they're cheap and decent quality. Rather do that than spend a lot on Carmina's and then wear them infrequently.

    Thanks!
     
  3. scoredtx

    scoredtx Active Member

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    I can relate to the uncertainty; I am on this journey myself. I think we train our eye to what looks good to us or what we think is acceptable, and then we lock that in. And get in a rut. It's a fact that dark brown is versatile and works with blues and grays even though everything in your intuition says otherwise. Your eye will re-train on this, trust me. Next question is style of shoe -- oxford or derby/blucher. If you're going to wear the new dark brown Meermins with suits, let me encourage you to go with oxfords (they will seem better to your eye as a starter). If you're doing trousers and odd jackets or slacks alone, then perhaps a derby/blucher style will "look" better to you.

    Then, once your eye and brain are retrained, you will have an easier time making the leap. My current personal mind-bender is brown suede in summer. SF-groupthink generally seems to think it's OK, but I'm not yet quite so sure (yet). Expanding my horizons ... and eyeing Carminas myself ...
     
  4. whiskeybeard

    whiskeybeard Senior member

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    Thanks again to everyone who has given input (especially those who give me hope there are perhaps more answers to 'what should I wear to a wedding?' than 'solid dark suit/white shirt/subdued tie'.)

    As of now I think I'll probably compromise and go for a light blue dress shirt and maybe a more subtle (perhaps burgundy, as someone suggested) tie, sticking with the suit, which I happen to be fond of. Cheers.
     
  5. diglett

    diglett Senior member

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    Walnut could work with some colors, but burgundy is actually quite versatile; you might even be able to get away with wearing burgundy whenever your outfit calls for dark brown.

    However, I think it would be a good idea to try out at least one pair of dark brown shoes, as I reckon you'll grow to love them (and they'll look good).
     
  6. 12345Michael54321

    12345Michael54321 Senior member

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    If you truly hate dark brown shoes, then don't buy yourself any dark brown shoes; it's possible to get along without them. But yes, they are a highly versatile color.

    I know people who hate black shoes. Nevertheless, most of them own at least one pair of black shoes, simply because sometimes black really is a good choice, and it's only one pair. Depending on your level of distaste for dark brown shoes, perhaps you could adopt a similar approach to the matter.

    Since you explicitly mentioned versatility, I would point out that, in general, suede dress shoes are less versatile than leather dress shoes. (In much the same way that a tan suit is usually less versatile than a grey suit.) Exceptions may exist. But exceptions do not necessarily invalidate a general rule. That's what makes it a "general" rule, and not an absolute rule.

    However, there is nothing inherently wrong with suede shoes in dark brown. If you like the shoes, and think you'll have occasion to wear them, feel free to buy them. (Nor is there anything inherently wrong with a tan suit, if you like the suit and think you'll have occasion to wear it.)

    I'm not terribly familiar with Meermin. (Nor am I all that expert on Carmina's, for all that I do own one pair of them. A suede pair, coincidentally enough.)

    But that having been said, when it comes to shoes, it's often sensible to spend a little more money to get excellent quality. Then properly maintain and care for the shoes. Doing so can result in many years of excellent service from them. (To further complicate matters, even with proper care and good quality shoes to begin with, it's likely fair to suggest that leather shoes will tend to outlast suede shoes.)
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  7. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I have black blazer which I love. I hate the pants. Provided I have a loud enough tie or heavily patterned shirt, is it possible to match the black blazer to some other slacks? And if so...how?
     
  8. scoredtx

    scoredtx Active Member

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    Is it a blazer (a standalone sportcoat) or the top part of a black suit? I believe black is one of the most difficult colors to make work, and perhaps that is the reason it doesn't get much appreciation in this forum (that may be an understatement).

    First, do not try and match it to a pair of black pants. That will not be anything that looks good, nor will it have lasting value in your wardrobe.

    Second, forget trying to get a loud tie or crazy shirt to make it more appealing. See next point.

    Finally, if it were me, and I had to keep the black blazer, I would pair it with a pair of gray slacks (medium gray, not too dark and not too light). Then, I would find a complementary shirt/tie combination. You can bring some color into the shirt/tie, but do not go crazy. Tall, gray socks with polished black leather shoes and a plain black belt.

    Importantly, where are you going to wear this?
     
  9. mytton

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    I'm about to get a dark blue-grey suit (more gray imo, looks like this color pretty much) as my first suit when I always envisioned myself getting a navy one (I'm getting a navy blazer as well, so I found it redundant to have a suit in the same color). Problem is, I feel like the darker grey is just so flat, dull, uncreative. What can I do to really make it exciting and stand out?

    For context, I'm in college and the suit will be used for social events and business events.
     
  10. thisisfun

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    Does anybody know the reason as to why Tuxedos have satin lapels? Always wondered about that.
     
  11. 12345Michael54321

    12345Michael54321 Senior member

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    Not to be facetious, but if a tuxedo didn't have satin lapels and satin stripes down the sides of the pants, it'd just be another black suit. I mean, the former is probably the single most common characteristic differentiating a tuxedo jacket from an ordinary black jacket, and the latter the single most common characteristic differentiating tuxedo pants from ordinary black pants.

    Yes, there may well be other, less common or more subtle differences, but the satin thing is the almost universal and immediately obvious one. Also, there may be differences in accompanying items - cummerbund, shoes, shirt studs, etc. But they're just that - accompanying items, and not the tuxedo itself. And for purposes of this post, "satin" should be taken to technically mean "satin or grosgrain."

    It's sort of similar to the reason why tricycles have a third wheel - it's because without that third wheel, they'd just be bicycles. :)
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  12. HughJ

    HughJ Senior member

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    Not well. Are the pants beyond tailoring?
     
  13. Steve Smith

    Steve Smith Senior member

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    [quote name="mytton" url="/t/79716/ask-a-question-get-an-answer-post-all-quick-questions-here/16980_60#post_5689020"...(I'm getting a navy blazer as well, so I found it redundant to have a suit in the same color). Problem is, I feel like the darker grey is just so flat, dull, uncreative. What can I do to really make it exciting and stand out?

    For context, I'm in college and the suit will be used for social events and business events. 
    [/quote]

    A navy blazer and navy suit are not redundant. They are different things and you do not wear them both at the same time.

    The suit should not be exciting and should not stand out. You can jazz it up or down with your shirt, tie, belt and shoes.
     
  14. Tomoglo

    Tomoglo New Member

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    I have a question in regards to Burberry's Duffle Coats.

    Do the coats from their company generally run large and roomy? I am planning to buy a new coat for the winter since the winters are incredibly rough in Chicago.

    I am 5 feet and 7 inches and have a relatively slim stature. (5'7) My clothes are generally medium, but I can fit into some small sizes.

    Would this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=221095799906

    Fit someone who wears a medium?

    Your feedback is appreciated!
     
  15. cptjeff

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    The listing has measurements off the coat. Compare them to measurements on a coat you'd be wearing in a similar situation that you own and fits well.
     
  16. LostnConfused

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    Hi again, I'm a noob also [​IMG]

    So I have a two-part question. What suspenders color can go with most outfits? Also, what is appropriate to wear with suspenders (pants with no belt loops?) and what is never a good idea (a belt, a vest?)
     
  17. MarshMan114

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    So I am going to my best friend's rehearsal dinner this weekend and had a quick pocket square question. I will be wearing a black suit (I know I know, never wear black unless it's a funeral. Essentially, I have no other options.) I was going to pull the trigger on a white linen pocket square via Kent Wang, but never got around to it. Because it's this weekend I missed the ability to order online. Due to my complaining, my wife went to Nordstrom and picked up a silk white PS for me.

    Can you do a TV fold/straight fold with a silk square? Between a white, pink, berry (deeper color, almost "dark") or lavender shirt what would work best? Thanks for any input.
     
  18. noctem

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    Hello all,

    New member here and wanted some opinions on blazer buttons. I want some opinions on button size and these buttons in general. I feel like the buttons on the blazers I can afford look cheesy. I'm trying to make a nod toward the heritage of the blazer (gold and metal buttons) but a touch contemporary. The sizes the button below comes in 14mm, 18mm 23mm, 28mm. I have a hard time visualizing these buttons, which sizes should I use? I was thinking two 18mm on the front and 3 14mm on each cuff? The blazer is a basic slim cut tommy hilfiger navy (at macys.com).


    Any advice welcome! Thanks in advance!



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  19. thisisfun

    thisisfun Active Member

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    So it's essentially there for the sole purpose of distinguishing it from a suit?
    Well that's rather anticlimactic; I though there would've been some 'practical' reason as to why those features existed.
    Nevertheless, thanks for the explanation.
     
  20. Van Veen

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    Tuxedos evolved from evening tailcoats...

    http://www.blacktieguide.com/History/03-Victorian_Early,Mid.htm
     

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