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Ask A Question, Get An Answer... - Post All Quick Questions Here (Classic menswear)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Master-Classter, Sep 28, 2008.

  1. marf

    marf Member

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  2. mensimageconsultant

    mensimageconsultant Senior member

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    The drop (chest-waist difference) is quite large. How did you find your current suit? At not far from that budget, you could look for Austin Reed and Oscar de la Renta, which make 8-inch drop suits, and then have them tailored (maybe for $100). Those brands probably cannot be found at the stores mentioned.
     
  3. HughJ

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    Suggestions would depend on the shade of grey. Black chinos are not a strong option in any case IMHO. Nor are t-shirts, really.
     
  4. vimkgt

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    I'm considering pulling the trigger on this briefcase, it's a vintage 1990's Japanese made leather briefcase, and I guess the brand is "Freedom Ivy?" Can't find any information about it, but just from the seller's photos, the quality looks decent and has a nice patina you usually only see from vintage leather. Very plain and simple design, with expanding zipper to basically double the internal space.

    Can anyone spot any issues? I don't have much experience with leather cases to tell much myself.

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  5. jbernard

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    Yes definitely.
     
  6. diglett

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    Regarding suit terminology:

    1. What is the "drop" of a suit? (for example, a 40 drop 6)
    2. What is the "roll" of a suit? (for example, the 3 roll 2 suits that were being discussed last night in another thread)
     
  7. brokencycle

    brokencycle Senior member

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    Drop is the difference between the chest size and the waist size. So your example would have 34" pants. A 6" drop is pretty standard. Slimmer suits might be 7 or 8, and typically as suit sizes go up, the drop decreases. As an example, I think JAB has a 4" drop for size 48 and above.

    Roll is for three buttons and refers to what button it buttons to. 3 roll 2 means it is meant to be buttoned at the middle button only, so it looks like a 2 button.
     
  8. Paisan

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    This is a total noob question, but I get different answers everywhere I ask so I'm going to ask the people who know. When wearing a white (dress) shirt, what is the rule for undershirts? Some say no undershirts because you can see the sleeves of the undershirt if one is not wearing a jacket. Some say to avoid this by either, not wearing an undershirt at all, or wearing a sleeveless shirt. Some say having the sleeves visible is just part of the look. Who is right?
     
  9. HansderHund

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    Someone can surely give you a better answer, but I'll say personal preference. If I am going to sweat through it (i.e. giving presentations), I'll go with a v-neck undershirt. I'll still wear wife beaters on more relaxing days. Showing sleeves really doesn't bother me but showing a crewneck looks terrible.
     
  10. vimkgt

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    Does anyone know how long it takes before my image posts stop being moderated? I've tried posting a few things but usually find that it takes a long time for approval and by then my post is already bumped back so far that no one would probably see it...
     
  11. Jbond4321

    Jbond4321 New Member

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    Went looking for a new suit something more fashionable just to wear for weddings and found a Valentino at off 5th for $530, is it worth it? Can anyone suggest something better to try? I appreciate the help.
     
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    It varies depending on the moderators' workloads. You should post your question in the "Transparent Moderation Log" thread in the General Chat forum. They monitor that one more closely.
     
  13. diglett

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    Okay, I understand drop now, but I'm still confused about roll. If 3 roll 2 means that a 3-button suit should only be buttoned in the middle, what's a 3 roll 2.5? I saw that being mentioned just yesterday in reference to one of the characters in USA's "Suits".

    Edit: Also, does anyone know of any reputable cobblers or tailors in the Washington, DC area? I'm looking to put sunken metal toe taps in some shoes, which I'll probably get done at Sky Valet (unless someone suggests something else), and I also need to have a shirt darted and a raincoat's sleeves taken in at the shoulders.
     
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  14. Steve Smith

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    A 3 roll 2 is a jacket constructed so that the lapels encompass the top button and buttonhole as in the photo below. You can see the buttonhole on the lapel on one side. On the opposite side the button is hidden beneath the lapel. This is different from a 3 button suit in that you could button the top button on the 3 button, but if you button the top button of the 3 roll 2 it fouls up the lapel. When someone calls a jacket a 3 roll 2.5 it means the roll ends about halfway between the top two buttons.

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    Am I Doing Anything Wrong with my Outfit?
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    Will be wearing this for the four weddings coming up. Just wanted to know if I look awkward/weird in my choice of color/coordination. Shoes will be black oxfords.
     
  16. RedLeg

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    Is the Zegna for Neimen Marcus the same quality as mainline Zegna?

    I know the Sachs near me carries a lesser quality Zegna line, but they call it Z Zegna.
     
  17. brokencycle

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    Personally I don't like all the black. Also with all the black, the pocket square doesn't go in my opinion. I also wouldn't puff it out so much either.
     
  18. JarndyceAB

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    Evening all,

    I'd appreciate some suit advice, primarily regarding colour.
    I own one charcoal suit, for sombre occasions etc. (and a dinner suit, but that is neither here, nor there). I never wear suits at work (Navy, so always in uniform). Thus, any time I would wear suits the occasion will be social, so I don't need to strictly adhere to business demands. I don't want something trendy and soon to be out of date. I prefer to stick to very traditional styles, as I feel they always look refined and respectable.

    I'm 20 years of age, quite fair skinned with dark red/brownish hair, thin and moderately tall.

    What colour would you suggest for a single breasted (very possibly three piece) suit? I'm looking at a shade of grey (no pattern), not too light, and not too flat. This for instance appeals to my eye, but I welcome divergent views.

    Also, any particular criticisms of a ventless italian styled suit?

    Thank you for any opinions.
     
  19. AM101

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    Hey guys, can anyone help me find a blazer similar to this one?

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    I've tried looking around for similar sports jackets but i just seem to only come across the generic tweed blazers, have had no luck finding anything remotely similar to this one. My budget is around £200.
    Would really appreciate any help, thanks.
     
  20. Sanguis Mortuum

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    Wait, what?
     

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