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Ask A Question, Get An Answer... - Post All Quick Questions Here (Classic menswear)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Master-Classter, Sep 28, 2008.

  1. MTB-85

    MTB-85 Well-Known Member

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    Now here's my question...

    First of: I am 27 and I look like someone who's 21. [​IMG]

    For my wedding (summer, no tux) I'll be wearing; a slim 3-piece navy suit from Tiger of Sweden:



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    The vest is not shown, but everything is the same S120 Cerutti fabric.



    The ? is
    Will this bowtie by Collared Greens

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    - with the reversed green side "out" and navy down the middle,
    combined with this silk pocket square from Berg & Berg ???

    [​IMG]

    be too matchy and/or not give enough variation in the color palette, which is navy (suit), brown (shoes+belt) and ivory (shirt)...

    I wanted to have silver and/or brown in the Bow tie/Pocket square combo, but all four colors were either impossible to find or way to busy-looking!

    BTW: One of the "themes" that we have been using in invitations and decorations nature/green, so that is the reason I am rating the green combo higher than silver...


    Shoes and belt for those who want to see all the details:






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    EDIT::
    I put in the wrong belt to begin with. This is the one that matches the shoes:
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    The shoes and belt does have the same hue/color


    - Morten
     
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  2. Dean Keaton

    Dean Keaton Well-Known Member

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    More of a tailor-etiquette question:

    My father ordered brown, linen MTM jacket from Sartoria Partenopea. It is too short in my opinion (but he agreed for this length - so there is nothing to do about that I guess). The main problem are the pockets though - flap instead of patched. It's their mistake. For me this is a crucial misunderstanding and I would request my money back (the down payment) - or if that is not possible, I would at least not pay the rest. What do you say? Ordering another one is not an option since they struggle to do anything right.


    I guess my dad is going to pay, because he wants to avoid saying no...
     
  3. fritzl

    fritzl Senior member

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    don't do it.
     
  4. fritzl

    fritzl Senior member

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    i prefer flap to patch.
     
  5. MTB-85

    MTB-85 Well-Known Member

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    I know the shoes are below SF standards - I would have liked a better sole, but I really like the design, and the future mrs. said that they were the best of the ones I had to pick from... Out of which some were suede... and most were cap toes or wingtips.....


    The belt is the correct width for a "dress" belt. It is not "streetwear" size...
     
  6. fritzl

    fritzl Senior member

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    wrong colour...
     
  7. E TF

    E TF Senior member

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    MTB-85 - yes I think it's too matchy matchy, and too much navy. If you're having a green theme, how about this green seersucker bow, and maybe just a plain white ps. Also, I'd go for black shoes and belt.
     
  8. Stone34

    Stone34 Active Member

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    Any thoughts...

    I've tried on alot of suits the past few weeks and even had one Made to Measure.
    From Brooks Brothers, Armani, Joseph Abboud, Z Zegna, Boss Black... And I even bought a Made to Measure Thick as Thieves suit which came out incredibly wrong beyond repair and unwearable but they were nice enough to REFUND my money. The owner took my measurements in person so it was their fought. I was extremely disappointed because I was so looking forward to this suit, but at the very least I want to GIVE Thick as Thieves PROPS for refunding me. THANK YOU!!!

    That being said... I know everyone here for the most part does NOT like Boss suits... but the Suit that so far fits me best is the Boss Black Jam Sharp.

    And at this point I want to buy it (it will be on sale for about $500) but everyone keeps saying don't buy Boss. Any thoughts?

    Also there Boss Black has a similar cut suit called the Hour / Sharp (Dark Grey) that is normally $1,000 on sale for $660.
    http://store-us.hugoboss.com/mens-suits/traveler-collection/hour-sharp-two-button-suit/hbna50219894,en_US,pd.html&cgid=21100#!i%3D5%26color%3D021_Dark-Grey

    And I like the Hour / Jam even more then the Boss NAVY since I'm looking for Dark Grey / Charcoal.

    So does anyone have a good Boss story that could re-assure me to buy it or should I just run away from Boss?

    What I'm thinking is BOSS makes really good fitting suits and good style... but perhaps the quality is NOT good and doesn't last?
    Is that why so many do NOT like BOSS?

    Thanks~
     
  9. aspasp

    aspasp Senior member

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    http://imgur.com/a/hMf8u
    I think the sleeves need to be slimmed down, and possibly the waist?
    What do you guys think? Thanks
     
  10. kludi

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    I recently bought a pair of suede loafers from BM, which were half a size too big (compared to my usual size UK6) but they fit snugly when purchased. Now, especially after I have put in shoe trees (woodlore's ultra S), they have expanded to the point of being uncomfortable. My other shoes (leather loafers from moreschi) have also experienced the same expansion, though not as severe. Other than utilizing insoles, is there any way of 'shrinking' the shoes and prevent the heel area from expanding or will they adapt to my feet as time goes by?

    Thanks in advance.
     
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  11. KSchneil

    KSchneil New Member

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    "boat shoes" do these need to be worn with socks?

    I've got sweaty feet so soles get destroyed but even with socks, it seems even worse.

    That's not the purpose of my post but I wanted to mention that too in case someone had a fix.

    Should you wear socks or not?

    Gratzi
     
  12. Sanguis Mortuum

    Sanguis Mortuum Senior member

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    MTM just plugs your measurements into modifying an existing pattern or into a computer drafting system then produces the entire garment from that pattern. Bespoke is a much more involved process which involves drafting a pattern from scratch by hand, and basting the fabric together for at least one fitting (sometimes more) and making adjustments to the fit before finalising the garment. Bespoke also tends to use more handwork and higher quality construction, rather than industrial/factory methods, though this is not always the case (some MTM is very high quality).
     
  13. SlimJohny

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  14. lasbar

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    The first ones are very casual ..

    The second pair is more versatile..

    What do you want them for?

    I will go for numero due..
     
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  15. fritzl

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    +1
     
  16. Sanguis Mortuum

    Sanguis Mortuum Senior member

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    I'd probably say the opposite tbh. They are both pretty casual, but the mid-brown colour of the first is pretty versatile, whereas the stone colour and red soles of the second pair would be less versatile.
     
  17. SlimJohny

    SlimJohny Active Member

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    Thanks a lot for the comments. Well, the shoes should be for everyday wear - mostly to school. I usually wear chinos or jeans, paired with shirt or polo (in colder weather sweater or jacket). Until now I used black oxfords as my main shoes, but it is not very comfortable and way too formal, so I need some casual yet stylish alternative.
     
  18. HughJ

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    That's basically it - the quality doesn't approach the retail price tag. There is plenty on this if you search through the older threads. I actually own the Jam/Sharp model myself, but I don't feel too bad because I didn't know better and it only cost me $350. I still get occasional use out of it, but the quality is laughable compared to suits I could have paid modestly more for. I would urge you to dig through some older threads, such as this one.
     
  19. kludi

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    I recently bought a pair of suede loafers from BM, which were half a size too big (compared to my usual size UK6) but they fit snugly when purchased. Now, especially after I have put in shoe trees (woodlore's ultra S), they have expanded to the point of being uncomfortable. My other shoes (leather loafers from moreschi) have also experienced the same expansion, though not as severe. Other than utilizing insoles, is there any way of 'shrinking' the shoes and prevent the heel area from expanding or will they adapt to my feet as time goes by?

    Thanks in advance.
     

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