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Ask A Question, Get An Answer... - Post All Quick Questions Here (Classic menswear)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Master-Classter, Sep 28, 2008.

  1. Sharkb8

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    Thanks Jubei. I will endeavor to snap some photos of the older stuff and post them. Yes, I had been reading about the not-so-good JAB here. I bought the Super 110 Signature suit at an outlet for about $100 (can't recall exactly how much) and I figured since it is Merino wool it can't be too bad. I'm not looking for these to last a decade, just a year or two would be great. And pleated is out now, I know (but maybe not quite completely out at least in the legal profession).
     
  2. zero neck

    zero neck Well-Known Member

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    What exactly is the purpose of a three piece suit?

    Is it conservative enough to wear at work in a law firm?

    Just curious.
     
  3. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    It is more conservative than a two piece suit, so yes, it is perfectly acceptable for a law firm.
     
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    What do you guys think of this suit? I did a search on Aquascutum and didn't really see anything conclusive on peoples' experience with the brand. I'm looking to replace my current navy with something that's got a better cut to it and was thinking that this my serve my purposes. The fabric doesn't seem to be that great being a poly/wool blend. But it's semi canvassed and, at $300, seems to be a decent deal. Thoughts?

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  5. Sharkb8

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    I think it also depends on the firm, your position therein and the occasion. I would think it appropriate at a white shoe law firm at just about any time. If you're at a boutique where nobody wears suits unless seeing a client or going to court, it may be a tad over the top. I wore my three piece at such a firm once when meeting clients and had a few comments and jabs from fellow associates, but otherwise it was well received. If you are a junior associate and you are not going to court, or meeting a client, or in a boutique that does not typically otherwise wear suits, it would be bordering on bad form to wear the three-piece. So the answer is: it depends.
     
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  6. Harold falcon

    Harold falcon Senior member

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    Agreed. I wear a three piece at least twice a week. I do not wear them for mostjury trials because I fear it creates the wrong impression in jurors, most of whom show up in sweatpants.
     
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  7. JubeiSpiegel

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    Can you elaborate? What colors do you notice inspires more empathy from jurors, be it for the lawyer or client? I am always quite interested in the psychology of such things :nodding:
     
  8. zero neck

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    Thanks that clears things up.

    I'm still in 1L - so I was just curious where 3 pieces fit in.
     
  9. Sanguis Mortuum

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    More formal, yes, but more conservative? I don't think many people would see it that way.
     
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    you're a 1L? the 3-piece does not fit in anywhere for you then
     
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  11. Harold falcon

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    I took a CLE a few years ago on this so most of this is just me repeating but in front of a jury I wear CBD, charcoal or navy suit, regimental tie, white or blue shirt, white PS, black cap toes. When not in front of a jury I'll wear a bow tie, a 3 piece, wing tips, paisley ties, coloured PS, red socks, all that fun stuff (but not all at the same time of course).

    For clients I always tell them to dress comfortably but appropriately. Most come in with button down shirts and the occasional bad tie from Kohl's. Rarely do they wear a suit, because they feel and look uncomfortable wearing it. No jeans or t shirts obviously.

    I don't know if any of this is true, but I've followed it for near a decade and I've won more than I've lost so take it for whatever it's worth.

    I might still have the CLE packet at the office if you're really interested I could send it to you.
     
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    Harold falcon Senior member

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    Let me answer your question with a question. Do you already eat ramen noodles for every mean? If yes, then yes. If no, then no.
     
  14. Sharkb8

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    One more word of advice - I would not wear a three piece suit to an interview. In the legal world I get the impression it is bad form to dress above your station. You likewise do not want to stand out too much by showing up with a $1500 suit and $600 shoes, etc. Interviews are not fashion shows - they are a moment in which your judgment is judged. Conservative attire is key. A little flair is ok, but not so much that your judgment/personality is called into question.
     
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    If you still happen to have it, I would be most appreciative, good sir.
     
  16. Sharkb8

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    Surely you jest, Harvey. You could do a LOT worse than those and believe me, I've seen law students do a lot worse than those, even at interviews. I am less than a decade removed from law school and believe that you could even pass with a pair of black Cole Haan captoes (gasp!). In an interview or mixer situation, they're just checking to be sure you don't have white tube socks on and your shoes are black, and that they match your belt (and that you have a belt). They're not going to examine the stitching and ask where you bought them. If you are a poor law student, for $100 you can get a nice pair of Cole Haan captoes that will last you through most interviewing situations and be very comfortable (but they won't last much longer than that). They key in an interview is to be comfortable and to at least pass for the part you are playing. More substantive attire can be acquired after you graduate. I also kind-of think that an interviewer could just as easily size you up and decide you are not hungry enough for their firm if you can already afford AEs or a $1200 suit. In my experience, I've found that law firms like their associates poor and in debt. Squalor is a motivating factor.
     
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    +1. I saw some guys who I thought looked a bit too polished for law firm interviews, it stuck in my mind and not in a good way. In my experience, nobody wants to hire someone that dresses better than them and, frankly, most lawyers don't dress all that well.

    I think I posted this elsewhere on the forum, but I remember reading somewhere that Johnnie Cochran made OJ go buy crap suits from JCP so that he didn't dress better than the jury and look too snobby.
     
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    This is a bit annoying.

    Gonna intern at a bank and I am afraid of just this (needless to say, I forgot my tie for the interviews, so a contrast there).
     
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    If the suit doesn't fit, you must acquit!
     
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  20. Sharkb8

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    Another benefit of a matching suit vest - if you're a dolt and drop mustard on your dress shirt at lunch, the vest can hide many such mortal sins (even to some extent it can hide the ill-fitting or cheaply made dress shirt/tie, etc.). Plus, if the interview goes poorly, you'll look great with the vest on and jacket off hustling pool. And, completely unrelated to law and interviews (but maybe not) - women love men in three piece suits. No idea why, they just do (well, I do have one or two theories, but I digress).
     
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