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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Master-Classter, Sep 28, 2008.

  1. fritzl

    fritzl Senior member

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    This may seem like an odd question coming from a shoe horse such as myself, but what is the "ultimate" black dress shoe? Like, the shoe you would wear to a funeral or court appearance. Plain toe? Cap toe? Wholecut?

    in europe it is plain toe - either derby/blucher or bal/oxford, no wholecuts

    in the U.S. it seems a bal cap toe.
     


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    RB overcoat
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    My briefcase has a little scuff on one corner due to wear. Can I use a little shoe polish to touch it up, or is a bad idea?
     


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    Plain cap toe bals.

    in europe it is plain toe - either derby/blucher or bal/oxford, no wholecuts

    in the U.S. it seems a bal cap toe.


    Sounds like a consensus. Thanks, fellows.
     


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    My briefcase has a little scuff on one corner due to wear. Can I use a little shoe polish to touch it up, or is a bad idea?

    If it's black, go for it. I have touched up my wife's black purses in this way. I used shoe cream, though, not wax polish.
     


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    It depends on what you mean by "hi-shine." If you're referring to corrected grain leather with a shiny finish, the answer is no. If you're referring to patent leather, the answer is probably not. There are different qualities of patent leather, but I don't think any of them are as durable as a quality full-grain calf leather.

    ah, thanks. i mean "hi-shine" as on, say, the barker dermot (http://www.pediwear.co.uk/barker/products/1516.php) vs. the black calf barker flynn (http://www.pediwear.co.uk/barker/products/1520.php)
     


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    This may seem like an odd question coming from a shoe horse such as myself, but what is the "ultimate" black dress shoe? Like, the shoe you would wear to a funeral or court appearance. Plain toe? Cap toe? Wholecut?

    Plain Toe without any embellishment is the most formal.

    Not sure where Whole Cut fits in, my gut feels it is a casual shoe.
     


  9. Sanguis Mortuum

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    This may seem like an odd question coming from a shoe horse such as myself, but what is the "ultimate" black dress shoe? Like, the shoe you would wear to a funeral or court appearance. Plain toe? Cap toe? Wholecut?

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    Plain Toe without any embellishment is the most formal.

    Not sure where Whole Cut fits in, my gut feels it is a casual shoe.



    I disagree. It may depend on type of formality. If you're talking work-environment, a cap-toe Oxford is as formal as it gets. If you're talking festive occasion, then a wholecut beats the cap-toe. This doesn't mean it cannot be worn casually but it isn't a casual shoe as such.

    In my view it is comparable to a dinner jacket: fewer buttons, no pocket flaps, generally cleaner lines. But I don't think one could say which is more formal: a dinner jacket or a blue navy two-button suit. It depends on the occasion.
     


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    I need a new, fitting suit. This is the best I have found so far: [​IMG] Should I go for it? Sorry for the bad quality pics, I couldn't make any better ones. It's wool btw.
     


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    I need a new, fitting suit. This is the best I have found so far:
    Should I go for it?

    Sorry for the bad quality pics, I couldn't make any better ones. It's wool btw.

    It looks too big across the shoulders for you. Look how it's standing off the left side of your neck.
     


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    ah, thanks. i mean "hi-shine" as on, say, the barker dermot (http://www.pediwear.co.uk/barker/products/1516.php) vs. the black calf barker flynn (http://www.pediwear.co.uk/barker/products/1520.php)
    Well, the Dermot is definitely not patent leather. I would guess based on price that it's corrected-grain (or lower quality) leather. Corrected grain leather, regardless of its degree of shine, is not nearly as durable as full-grain leather because it's essentially a veneer of surface leather applied over a lower-grade leather. Do a search here for corrected grain leather if you need more info on it. There are several very informative threads on it.
     


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    Well, the Dermot is definitely not patent leather. I would guess based on price that it's corrected-grain (or lower quality) leather. Corrected grain leather, regardless of its degree of shine, is not nearly as durable as full-grain leather because it's essentially a veneer of surface leather applied over a lower-grade leather. Do a search here for corrected grain leather if you need more info on it. There are several very informative threads on it.

    will do...thanks again!
     


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    If it's black, go for it. I have touched up my wife's black purses in this way. I used shoe cream, though, not wax polish.

    neither can do harm to a leather briefcase, quasi
     


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