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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Master-Classter, Sep 28, 2008.

  1. J011yroger

    J011yroger Senior member

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    Excellent, thank you. J
     
  2. JezeC

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    If I push my foot all the way to the front of the shoe, is my shoe too loose if there is about one finger separation in the back?
     
  3. Exdeath

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    What's the consensus on wearing OCBDs with neckties?
     
  4. ImTheGroom

    ImTheGroom Senior member

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    Yes.
     
  5. YRR92

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    There isn't one, and blood has been spilled over the issue.

    I vote "yes."
     
  6. Ich_Dien

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    Hard to say but I'd probably say yes, unless you are really pushing your foot into the end. Length may not be the issue here, but actually the width, as if the vamp isn't tight enough on your foot then width is probably the factor. Sizing is very hard to get right, as many times a 10C will be the almost the same length as a 9E just narrower etc.

    In the time when I started to expand my shoe collection but was still growing in my late teens to early twenties it took a few years of experimentation in different makers to fully determine my actual size in most of them, especially the width as not many manufacturers stock different widths to try on so easily. It was finally discovered in GJ Cleverley, who are keen on narrower lasts, my true size afterall and what had been the problem was actually the width of my shoes not the length. So the lesson is to examine all aspects of fit not just the length.

    A good indicator for whether your shoes are too big in length would be wear on the back of your socks as that would be evidence of heel slippage.
     
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  7. 12345Michael54321

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    Opinion varies.

    Some insist that one should not wear an OCBD with a necktie. To whatever extent a reason is given for this rule, that reason may note (correctly) that the OCBD has its origins in sporting wear. That is, the OCBD started out as a sports shirt, not a dress shirt.

    However, this has never been a universally accepted rule, and whatever authority it did once possess has been greatly reduced over the years. Moreover, there is substantial tradition in certain geographic areas and amongst certain groups and professions, of wearing ties with OCBD's.

    My own take on it - and I'm coming from a Northeastern and Middle Atlantic background, with no small amount of prep and trad influence, is that it's fine to wear a necktie with an OCBD - but not always. If I were doing something especially serious and important - like addressing the Board, being interviewed on tv, interviewing for a job, serving as a member of a wedding party, etc. - I probably wouldn't wear an OCBD that day.

    On the other hand, most days an OCBD might not be much of a problem for me. And an OCBD with sweater and tie (no suit) is a combination I quite like.

    So there's your answer. Some say it's okay. Some say it's not okay. And some say it's okay sometimes, but not all the time.

    You'll have to make up your own mind on this one. There simply is no universally accepted rule.

    (This question closely parallels the equally well thrashed out, "Is it okay to wear loafers with a suit?")

    I'll add that OCBD with bow tie has always struck me as an ideal pairing. Some may agree, some may disagree, but again there's a lot of tradition in support of the idea.
     
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  8. Bungle

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    Well as luck would have it, the wife and I decided to go to Birkenhead Point today and I they had a David Jones there. I wasn't even really looking for shoes but scored a set of dark brown plain toe derbys with leather soles reduced from $170 to $62 because they didn't have the box for them. They're Mason Avenue, which I've never heard of before but I'm only going to wear them 3-4 times a year at the most. I know most people will say I should've got oxfords, but I personally aren't a fan of them. Pic of the derbys: http://i.imgur.com/wZ3DMfr.jpg
     
  9. Exdeath

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    Quote:Great write-up. Thanks!
     
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    Definitively yes. As long as they're somewhat casual, so avoid foulard neats, satin etc. I usually go for knits with ocbd.
     
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  11. J011yroger

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    I love rep stripes with them. Navy blazers and sweaters too.

    J
     
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    I'm looking for a casual briefcase for school. This Alfred Dunhill is pretty much exactly what I'm looking for in terms of both design and price. My question is, what's the quality like on Dunhill briefs? Can I expect it to last me several years of daily use? The only others I've been able to find that I like are this Jack Spade and this Mulberry.
     
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    Do I need shoe trees for my Loake Pimlico Suede?
     
  14. 12345Michael54321

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    Are they shoes? Then you should use shoe trees in them.

    Every so often, someone asks a question which suggests that he fears shoe trees will stretch out and harm his shoes (especially if they're suede).

    The answer, as always, is that unless the tree is grossly mismatched to the size of the shoe (like, somehow forcing a size XL shoe tree into a size 7 shoe, not that this is something one is likely to manage), shoe trees are unlikely to damage shoes. Not calfskin shoes. Not horse ass leather shoes. Not suede shoes. Not shoes made from the skin of the rare fire-spitting zebra lizard of the south-central Garnath Valley, near Mount Kolvir. Shoe tree use will tend to be beneficial to shoes. It will not hurt shoes.
     
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  15. J011yroger

    J011yroger Senior member

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    Ugh, but we have so many shoes, there have to be some that don't need trees.

    J
     
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    12345Michael54321 Senior member

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    Presumably, if one can afford so many shoes, one can afford an equal number of shoe trees.

    After all, a pair of Woodlore shoe trees can not infrequently be had for little more than $10. That's but a small fraction the price of a pair of shoes.

    Otherwise, it's somewhat akin to being able to afford to regularly dine out at pricey restaurants, but complaining that the expense of tipping the valet parking attendant $5 on each occasion is the real financial burden.
     
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  17. J011yroger

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    Your logic is infallible, my only excuse is to claim mental illness and laziness.

    J
     
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  18. EZETHATSME

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    I use trees for all my dress shoes. That being said, some day I'm going to buy two pair of the same shoe and use trees in one and not in the other. I'll post pix after a year. I'm curious just how much they really do help with the life of the shoe.
     
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    I wouldn't pick an expensive pair to do this with since photographs of tree-less shoes are pretty easy to come by.
     
  20. EZETHATSME

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    Agreed, won't do so.
     

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