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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Master-Classter, Sep 28, 2008.

  1. MMoon24

    MMoon24 Senior member

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    Quick question guys. Been slowly evolving my closet ever since I got into the corporate world. We mostly wear business casual. Usually that includes pants, trousers, and then a dress shirt of some sort.

    Far as the bottoms go, are chinos appropriate for business casual? I'm looking at the Brooks Brothers website, and they have a "trousers" section and a "casual pants" section. The casual pants look like they could be business casual appropriate though.
     
  2. ridethecliche

    ridethecliche Senior member

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    Thanks!

    I guess that some of what I like is dated then. Sad day!

    Progress, however incremental, is always good. I think the sweater idea is good. It might work well with a solid sweater+jacket or such. I have a few such ties and I like them. The point is I have to learn to use them where they are intended. DONT SAY IN THE TRASH!
    :p

    I will hunt for a burgundy tie though. I definitely need one in my wardrobe.

    I really liked that explanation actually. I actually have a couple of ties like this, i.e. horizontal/vertical pattern. However, I see what you mean about pairing them with a suit that complements the pattern instead of a 'more of the same' look. I'll keep that in mind and think of pairing a more diagonal tie with something like this to mix things up.
     
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  3. J011yroger

    J011yroger Senior member

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    If you like them, wear them. They just need to be strategically deployed.

    That tie would be ok with a solid or almost solid (subtle pattern) navy or gray suit.

    J
     
  4. ridethecliche

    ridethecliche Senior member

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    Thanks. Appreciate it. I'll keep that in mind!
     
  5. Terpo

    Terpo Senior member

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    Depends on the level of business casual. It can be appropriate depending on the context. What do your colleagues wear specifically? Do you want to belong to the better or worse dressed?
     
  6. ridethecliche

    ridethecliche Senior member

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    I think chino's are appropriate where khaki's are, no?
     
  7. 12345Michael54321

    12345Michael54321 Senior member

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    "Business casual" is one of those terms which takes in an awful lot of ground. It can mean anything from "your jeans should be reasonably clean" to "a pale blue shirt and/or a conservative sport coat may be substituted for the standard white shirt and grey or navy suit."

    Is it common and accepted practice for the people in your business casual workplace to wear chinos? If so, then I'd say chinos are appropriate for your office's version of business casual.
     
  8. gerbilunit

    gerbilunit Senior member

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    i'd also say to just see what they are wear. if you are in a crunch, purchase trousers. it never hurts to have a solid pair anyways. i'm pretty sure no one will be like "whoa whoa man, trousers? really? you are WAY to overdressed. get out and only wear chinos when you come back"
     
  9. 12345Michael54321

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    The two terms - chino and khaki - are basically used interchangeably as meaning the same thing, at least in much of the United States. (I throw in the "United States" bit, as for all I know it may be different in other countries.)

    Technically, of course, one can also use "khaki" as a color description. For example, pants, belts, suits, etc., may all be khaki-colored. And it's equally true that not all chinos need be khaki-colored. (For that matter, not all khakis need be khaki-colored.)

    But when one refers to pants as khakis, it's understood that the word is synonymous with chinos. And vice versa.
     
  10. Steve Smith

    Steve Smith Senior member

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    Are blue or black chinos also khakis?
     
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  11. Terpo

    Terpo Senior member

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    No, that would make no sense.
     
  12. Ich_Dien

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    No it really wouldn't.
     
  13. J011yroger

    J011yroger Senior member

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    I can't for the life of me understand why people choose to wear chinos. It isn't any harder to put on a pair of decent trousers than a pair of Dockers. They are for walking the dog, or going grocery shopping, or maybe for grabbing a pint after you have been working on the house all day. I wouldn't wear them anywhere that jeans wouldn't also be acceptable.

    I don't care if business casual is khakis and a polo shirt in your office, put on a damn pair of pants and a real shirt so you don't look like a gym teacher.

    In the interest of full disclosure, I don't work in an office of any sort, so you should probably just ignore this post as you would the inane ramblings of a crazy man.

    J
     
  14. DjangoV

    DjangoV Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys,

    I have some questions about (dress) shirts.

    1. What is the general (or your) preferred way to store (dress) shirts: hanging or folded?
    2. When/why should i wear a shirt with a button-down collar?

    Just wondering...
     
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  15. Terpo

    Terpo Senior member

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    1. hanging
    2. casual and with oxford cloth
     
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    This may be a horribly stupid question but what is the difference between chinos and trousers? I'm still new to all this but I used to just think that chinos were cotton, trousers were woolen and never gave much though to anything else. Now I'm trying to 'dress like a man' and I've discovered a world of cotton suits, linen/silk/wool/etc pants, high rise and low rise, etc etc.
     
  17. ridethecliche

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    It depends... honestly.

    At my last job, I wouldn't have felt comfortable dressing too well because my bosses didn't. Looking that much better than the bosses is weird.

    Here, I can wear SC's/trousers to work everyday without people raising an eyebrow. At the previous gig, everyone would ask why I was dressed up. These two offices are in the same organization but in different departments. It really depends.

    While I'm comfortable wearing SC's here, I wouldn't wear a suit here because that would put me on par with the people I work for. I don't want to do that because the difference in both our education and pay is worlds apart. So, I can dress as well as possible without going full on suit. I also won't wear shirts with cufflinks for the same reason.
     
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  18. ridethecliche

    ridethecliche Senior member

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    I'd say that khaki's/chino's are separated from trousers/slacks by virtue of material and fit. Trousers/slacks are usually wool, which chino's are cotton. Cords are separate.

    I was also under the impression that chinos were slimmer than khaki's which is how I distinguished them. Guess that was a false dichotomy!

    Anyone more knowledgeable feel free to correct what are probably my copious errors.
     
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  19. J011yroger

    J011yroger Senior member

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    1. Hanging

    2. Casually; with jeans, chinos, a more casual suit (Tweed, Seersucker), odd jackets, sweaters, shorts. It is one of the most casual button front shirts you can get, one step above a polo shirt, or a plaid flannel in terms of formality. Far too many people (Non sartorially inclined people that is) consider them dress shirts, when in fact they are way closer to a casual shirt. It is the most casual shirt you can wear with a suit, and though in the US it is often worn with business suits I feel that there are better choices.

    J
     
  20. J011yroger

    J011yroger Senior member

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    Dressing well is not a function of how formal you are. Don't confuse dressing well with dressing up.

    If I go to the bar to catch some football, and I am wearing jeans, boots, and a plaid shirt, I am still dressed well, and I am dressed better than the ex-frat boys in suits who sell credit card processing services.

    So within the realm of formality, you can still dress well. If a jacket and tie is too much, then trousers, nice shoes, and a shirt with maybe the cuffs turned up would be a well dressed alternative. If your boss is wearing a golf shirt, I am surely not advocating turning up in a three piece navy pinstripe suit, but I wouldn't dress like a bum just because my bosses looked like ragamuffins. If my golf shirt, pants, and shoes look nicer, and fit better than theirs, that is their problem. And honestly if they don't look good, they probably won't notice that you do, as long as you aren't the only one wearing a suit.

    J
     
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