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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Master-Classter, Sep 28, 2008.

  1. ridethecliche

    ridethecliche Senior member

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    I don't think so, but I was wondering if the op did. I also don't think black and navy should be worn together if avoidable.
     
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    I think his point was that there is no particular reason to opt immediately for black, as it's versatility is oversold. As I said, I have two black coats, and one charcoal. Personally, I find charcoal to be the most versatile colour of suit. Though I think black outerwear is perfectoy lovely, I would say black is equally versatile. Unless you're going to have multiple coats, black is a good choice because it shows dirt the least.
     
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    If you are only going to have one coat, I'd say charcoal. If you are going to have 2+, I'd have a black one.

    J
     
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    Quote:Are you guys referring to winter jackets? I would figure navy coats to be thest most versatile color since most people wear various shades of gray trousers + brown shoes. Do you guys think black coats go well with dark brown, merlot, walnut shades of brown shoes?
     
  5. ridethecliche

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    Hey thanks!

    1) Do you think I can lighten up the darker shoe by leaving it in my room with the light on for a while? I can polish the lighter shoe as well as keep it out of the light when it's not being worn. I think you're right that it's a display model. I like the look of the shoes. They're cole haan's but this and a pair of brown oxfords will probably cost less than $100 together in that condition. I think it's a great deal. They should easily last a few years as part of a rotation.

    2) As to the johnston and murphys. I bought them used for 15 bucks, but they are incredibly comfy and fit my feet super well. I've conditioned them once and polished them once as well. I might polish them every week for a bit to see if that helps with the spots. WABI is right though. I don't baby these though... I've biked across town in them and the pedals are probably not best for the toe area of the shoe.

     
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    No.
     
  7. ridethecliche

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    Then how did the other shoe get lighter with time in the light/sunlight. I'm obviously not talking over a day or two haha.
     
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    It would have to be direct sunlight. If you need to fade it, I would suggest leaving it on the back dash of your car, but be aware that you will also be drying out the leather. Also, since you're trying to match hues, be sure to take it inside every day to compare it to the other shoe, or you will end up in a perpetual cycle of fading one, then the other, then the other, until both shoes are white, and the leather is damaged beyond repair or use.
     
  9. ridethecliche

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    I don't have a car :p

    I'll leave it in living room somewhere. I can also hit it with leather protectant first so it doesn't dry out that much and just fades instead. Honestly it's not that big a deal. I can throw some extra polish on the other guy.

    This is provided I even end up deciding to get them!
     
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    I wasn't aware that it had been determined that it was exposure to sunlight which faded the shoe. But even if that was the cause, there is a vast, fundamental difference between exposure to sunlight, and exposure to the light in your bedroom. Sunlight is almost certainly many times brighter (feel free to confirm this with the light meter in a camera, keeping in mind that each f-stop difference represents a doubling in brightness), and likely includes an enormously more significant UV component (which is why people can tan from sunlight, but probably can't tan from the light in your bedroom) (and I wouldn't be surprised to learn that it was the UV which accounts for the lion's share of color fading).

    I strongly suspect that exposure to the light in your bedroom would not fade the shoe in any significant way. And that extended exposure to intense sunlight in an effort to fade it until it matches the other shoe would create more issues than it would solve.

    The color difference between the shoes in question is minor, and with polishing will be further diminished.. I'd suggest you simply not let the difference bother you. And if you can't bring yourself to the point where it doesn't bother you, then simply don't buy the shoes.
     
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    I do agree with the above, but guessed it would fall on deaf ears, and skipped to the end. Though it might have been more fun if we had insisted that the bedroom light should work and watched the frustrated posts continue asking what he was doing wrong for the next several months. "Oh, well, you have to stand on one leg and bark at them like a dog that's chasing an emu. We thought that was common knowledge."
     
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    Darn it, you're right. I'm sorry for having spoiled our fun. :(

    "Are you sure you put enough skunk oil on the shoe? Skunk oil is what reacts with the light, to produce fading. If you don't have some already, you can pick up a bottle of skunk oil at most sporting goods stores. Skunk hunters use the scent as a means of luring game."
     
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    "No no no, you actually put the shoe upside down; it's the light reflecting off the floor that's really effective!"
    "Try painting the light bulb the exact colour you want to turn the shoe."
     
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    It does not have to be direct sunlight.

    I have used indirect sunlight to bring together color differentials larger than what the poster showed on those shoes. I have accomplished this with dozens of pairs of Peal and Alden for BB shoes, both calf and shell cordovan. It will take months but it works.

    The shoes I have done this with were all former store display models with the right shoe being lighter in color. I have been in a few BB stores and I have never seen one which had direct sunlight on the shoe display. The shoes faded under store lighting and indirect sunlight in the store, and they will do the same thing in your home.
     
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    Can anyone comment on the quality of Aldo Brue or Ballantyne gloves?
     
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    Look here my good man, the obvious solution is to buy a pair of cheap flip-flops.

    When you are outdoors, wear the dark shoe, and a flip-flop, when indoors, switch to the light shoe and wear a flip-flop on the other foot. This will ensure that the dark one is lightened by the sun but that they both wear in evenly.

    If anyone questions why you are wearing one shoe and one flip-flop, just tell them that it is for science.

    J
     
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    I think I have a better solution.

    I should go tanning while wearing the shoe. Problem solved.

    The flip flop idea was a close second choice. I might do that too.
     
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    Claim it's sprezzatura. But to pull that off you also have to be wearing an overly short and tight suit.
     
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    My brass buttoned navy Thom Browne blazer with the white piping still hasn't seen the light of day.

    I'll wear it in public I promise, just need to do some squats so my ass looks nice and firm sticking out from under it.

    J
     
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