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Ask A Question, Get An Answer... - Post All Quick Questions Here (Classic menswear)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Master-Classter, Sep 28, 2008.

  1. 12345Michael54321

    12345Michael54321 Well-Known Member

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    If he's your groomsman, you presumably have a decent relationship with him. So simply say to him, "I'm getting all of my groomsmen neckties. You wear an extra-long tie?" And then you'll know what length tie he wears.

    Despite what I said about giving clothing as gifts, it's okay for a groom to give his groomsmen neckties. Same way that I'd discourage giving your guy friends jewelry, but giving your groomsmen matching cuff links would be okay. Groomsmen gifts fall into a special category that way.

    Oh, whenever I read here on SF that someone's getting married, I have to ask - you're not having your groomsmen all dress in matching outfits, are you? Please, for the love of Dog, tell me you're not making that mistake, no matter what the bride and/or wedding planner want. You have one groomsman who is the size of Herman Munster. You probably have another who's on the short and slight side. It's unlikely that the suit and/or tuxedo which looks best on one, will also look best on the other. Moreover, in looking at old wedding photos, I've never, ever thought to myself, "I wish all of grandpa's groomsmen had been wearing identical suits." So long as the groomsmen are dressed in the appropriate tone, there is absolutely nothing to be gained from having them all match, and quite a bit of reason to avoid this.
     
  2. Van Veen

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    No, don't worry. I've just asked them to wear solid charcoal suits (which, surprisingly, only 1/3 owned, but other other 2 were open to buying), white shirts, and black shoes (I'd prefer brown but black is safer). And I of course will provide ties, non-matching, but color coordinated. I'm trying to fight the good fight against matching, but some compromises are necessary. The wedding-industrial complex is strong.

    (The white shirt thing is actually a open issue because her dress is off-white and she asked if we could get off-white dress shirts.)

    I was also pissed off the one wedding I've been in that I couldn't wear my own tuxedo because it was single button, peak lapel instead of 2 button, notch lapel, so I had to shell out $200 for a Men's Wearhouse rental that didn't fit.
     
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    Friggin' ridiculous.
     
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    +1
     
  5. 12345Michael54321

    12345Michael54321 Well-Known Member

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    Any rule that ridiculous is typically justified on the grounds of safety. (You know, like some of the rules at the airport.)

    "Studies show that men in black suits are 2% less likely to abduct children than are men in charcoal suits. Chase cares about our children's safety. Don't you?"
     
  6. rudals1281

    rudals1281 Well-Known Member

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    The water's under the bridge. You should have come to this forum before you bought those suits man. Like the post above me, I too recommend Brooks Brothers. Just have one nice suit rather than plain garbage for $900. Yikes. Come here for advice before u buy something again. This place has some great people who will give u sound advice.
     
  7. plainnerd

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    Had a salesman at Nordstrom tell me that I should only use the middle of the three holes on monk straps, and if I'm using the third hole I should be going down a half size. All my monks fit great in the last hole, any truth to this?
     
  8. 12345Michael54321

    12345Michael54321 Well-Known Member

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    If you like how your shoes fit, and you like how they look, then you have no problem.

    Please don't let a department store salesperson cause you to second guess yourself.
     
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  9. plainnerd

    plainnerd Well-Known Member

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    I'm happy with the look and fit, just curious. Thanks.
     
  10. ImTheGroom

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    What's the size of a pocket square?
     
  11. Sander

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    Generally, there are two sizes: 30x30cm (12x12in) and 35x35 (14x14in). Sometimes even 40x40cm, but that's really large and a little unusual.
     
  12. ImTheGroom

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    I got everyone different ties in my groom's party. They are to wear the day of my wedding, so they aren't really a gift, as it is quite self serving. I also bought them cheap ones from www.thetiebar.com (though, nice patterns, good selection; will tell you about quality in a few days!) I sent each of them a selection of photos of ties that I would be happy with them wearing, and told them each to pick one. There was one I was disappointed no one wanted, which speaks to Michael's point. Anyway, If you approach it that way, then if a guy needs a longer tie, he'll probably tell you.
     
  13. ImTheGroom

    ImTheGroom Well-Known Member

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    Thanks. Seeing about getting some made on Etsy - found a good deal and will post a review on here later, if they're worthwhile - as I need 7 for my wedding and was hoping not to pay $25 or $40 each. But, anyway, may need to give very specific instructions to the woman who makes them.
     
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    Luckily I only have 3 groomsmen. Keeps costs down. The stuff brides worry about is crazy. She wants me to have all the groomsmen buy the same white shirt so the whites aren't slightly different in photos. I'm hoping to talk her out of this because I want to wear a more expensive shirt than I'd be comfortable asking people to buy.

    I really wish there were more photos of SF members' weddings that I could show her as a proof-of-concept.
     
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  15. ImTheGroom

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    Well if your wedding is after August 31st, you can refer her to my photos, of three guys in three different grey suits, with three different grey toned ties, wearing whichever white shirt they chose to buy, or already had.
     
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    Thanks, that actually might help. If I remember this, I will PM you about it.
     
  17. bbhues

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    I know it's probably not ideal, but could a solid colored suit jacket with patch pockets pass as a sport coat in a bind?
     
  18. ImTheGroom

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    With patch pockets, I'd say for sure. I expect someone else is going to disagree with me, though.
     
  19. aravenel

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    Its very, very suboptimal. The patch pockets help, but solid charcoal is a suit color and is pretty much always going to look like and orphaned suit coat.

    I do think you can do this with a navy suit/jacket--the famous blazer suit. But charcoal is a no-go in my opinion.

    Edit: I mis-read "colored" as charcoal. See my response above: For navy, or maybe even better, something like an air force blue, yes. You can make a blazer suit that, while maybe not something you'd want to wear to a board meeting, can do both roles. Charcoal, no.
     
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  20. ImTheGroom

    ImTheGroom Well-Known Member

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    Yep I'd agree on avoiding charcoal. Ironically I have a charcoal blazer from Banana republic that I love, but it's quite a soft construction, half lined deal and looks like a blazer because of its cut/drape. I have quite a bit of success with a brown suit orphan I got vintage that I wear as a sport coat.
     

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