Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Master-Classter, Sep 28, 2008.
Quick question about suit shoulders;
I've been trying on suits, and some have more defined shoulders that almost stick out even if they are the proper size (I assume this is the result of more padding) and some seem to flow more naturally from my shoulder to my arm. I'm confused about the shoulder styles: the one salesman at a decent quality men's store told me that the less natural shoulders is a look that's a bit more styling for modern, young, slim men such as myself: I don't know if I agree. To me, the less natural shoulder almost makes it look like the shoulders are too big on me (IMO). Can someone speak a bit about the different shoulder styles and when they're appropriate?
I picked up a crappy quality, but decent fitting suit at Macy's as a backup if I can't find anything else: it has similar shoulders to the ones the guy at the men's store was talking about, but like I said, I bought it as a cheap backup option because it's slim, navy with a relatively subtle pattern and it fits decently.
Further information about my measurements, what I've found so far that's come close and what I'm looking for is hidden below since I'm not sure if it's relevant.
I'm in my mid 20s and my measurements are as follows:
Chest: 41" - 42"
"Waist" (near belly button, which is higher than I want to wear my pants): 34" - 35"
Inseam: 32" - 33"
I found a Tallia suit at Men's Wearhouse that's slightly better quality, but at a $500 price point, it's a no-go even if it is half canvassed. I also found that the suits in the Hugo Boss retail store work pretty well on me, but when they're pricing between $750 and &1200, it's unacceptable (especially given what I've read about them on here). I found a Zenga at Saks Off Fifth that was just a touch too small on me and consequently bunched behind my neck (it was a 40R... a 42R shoulders were too big and they didn't have a 41). That probably would've been a buy for me at about $450 (starting tag was $1,100, it was slashed to around $560 and there was a sale going too.)
As you can probably guess, I am looking for a slim/trim suit, with slim arms, slim legs, a bit of taper in the body, high armholes, higher rise, etc. I don't need anything outlandish with the lapel and I'm just really looking for a good navy or charcoal suit to start my collection off.
It is my opinion. But I would go with very light shoulders pads. It may be hard at your price range to get a good fit and good quality. I usually like a little bit of pading because I have broad shoulders but even still my triceps extend past my shoulder line by a good 2" (I played linebacker in high school...) So the little bit of padding helps my triceps not to stick out to far.
If you have a smaller frame regardless of age you do not need big pads or any pads at all. Even with big shoulders the padless bespoke suits fit me best, but would be out of your price range for now.
I would suggest blacklapel.com I use them for my "power suits" I guess you would call them.I have 3 suits from them, I wear them once a week and they hold up amazing! They are very good quality much better than Men's warehouse. And are half canvased starting around $450. The fit doesn't quite match my $1000+ dollar suits but you get what you pay for. Not to mention $450 for their suits gets you very good fabric (their Super 130s fabric is just as nice as my bespoke tailors made-to-measure Super 130s) and their customer service is top notch. Free shipping. $75 alterations. And if it fits bad they are not at all afraid to tell you to send it back and have it remade for free.
What brand are the red shoes on the right? Could i wear them with shorts?
It's a matter of personal preference. Sounds like you prefer a softer, natural shoulder so go for it. Oh, and most suit pants sit higher than you are probably used to.
Only the sperry shoes would go nice with shorts in my eyes.
Which shoe should i get to be paired casually with dark denim and blazer
Why those 3 shoes? You could get something much nicer for that money?
Nice braclets for men, where to find online?
what do you suggest?
Your shoe budget is a quite high for a new member asking for recommendations for shoes. Do you have many other nice/expensive pairs of shoes? You may want to start cheaper to get a better feel for what you like before sinking $1200 into a pair of shoes.
As for the shoes themselves, the main issue I see with those shoes is that they are borderline formal wear, and really don't belong with jeans. Also, for a casual shoe, I would avoid black. Also, casual shoes are often going to have double-leather soles and not be quite so sleek.
NO, NO and NO!
Jesus wept. I only looked at the first one and I am going to have a hard time sleeping tonight.
A) Louboutins are a women's fashion brand. The qualityrice ratio is awful compared to other more traditional options.
B) the patent leather, or patent leather elements, is just awful. Maybe if you're trying to be really loud in a club, but that's about it.
C) aside from the (awful) patent leather element, there's really nothing special about the designs there which is all your money would be going towards.
Conclusion: seek something else.
Go for these. You can wear them for most occasions - from work to evenings out - and go with most outfits - from dark denim to chinos to sportcoats to suits. You can also have them resoled every 5 years so they should last you about 12-15 years:
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