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Ask A Question, Get An Answer... - Post All Quick Questions Here (Classic menswear)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Master-Classter, Sep 28, 2008.

  1. mimo

    mimo Senior member

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    Pretty hard to give advice without generalising. I respect that you do not share my opinion, It's OK, I'm giving my advice, not yours, ours, or Styleforum's. But as you've raised the issue, I usually wear black shoes for a business suit, I prefer a triangular Pratt-Shelby knot to the StyleForum schoolboy standard four in hand, I think not wearing socks with shoes is a sin, and 90% of "model" fits on SF are a size too small. I agree that there is a certain "StyleForum preferred aesthetic" on many things. But a white shirt and black suit is not the best option for daywear, in my opinion, and on this issue that opinion coincides with the "iGent orthodoxy". A white shirt looks stunning with a blue or grey suit, especially for a really business-y look. But with a black suit, I'd usually leave it for bouncers, valet parkers and ticket collectors.

    This really makes you cross, doesn't it? I sympathise. Every time I see jeans, cargo pants or "sneakers" in the WAYWRN thread, a little piece of me dies. :)
     
  2. rudals1281

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    Holy Macaroni!
    I have a black suit in my rotation and sorry to say I am none of the above LOL. Anyways, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Here's mine: I love black suits with white shirts. It's just so gosh darn traditional and solid. I usually don't go crazy with ties, just go with a light blue, red, or even royal blue and a pocket square is a must have (white silk).
     
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  3. mimo

    mimo Senior member

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    Your post was brilliant until the last sentence. I don't really give a fuck what your clothes cost, and even less who sold them to you. Talking about THAT sort of thing is VERY bad taste!

    But apart from that, I accept and respect your points entirely, and I'm sure you look very sharp indeed. Each to his own, and it's not as if I've never worn black and white either, I'm just enjoying the privilege of sweeping generalisations and comical imagery with utter strangers on the internet, that some people find more obnoxious than others!

    I'm glad you also have a sense of humour. :)
     
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    Guilty as charged. I gotta stop being so chauvinistic(?). My apologies.
    Anyhow, I look at black suits, navy blue suits, and charcoal grey suits, as playing it safe and it is quite impossible to mis-coordinate if you have some decent taste. However, I sometimes want to be "GQ-ish" sometimes and that's why I've ventured into buying this and other more interesting suits. I am done buying black, navy blue, and charcoal. I am going to try to be more "interesting" in how I dress. And by no means am I saying you cannot looking "interesting" or stylish in black, navy, or charcoal suits. A light blue shirt is all I need for this suit.

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  6. xxxamazexxx

    xxxamazexxx Senior member

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    Today I got the the Harris Tweed jacket I posted about a few days ago. First impression, the material is quite wonderful, and I feel really comfortable in it. Second impression, it doesn't fit perfectly. Okay, I didn't expect it to in the first place, so that's why I'm here again.


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    What should and can be altered so that the jacket can fit me better? I got it from eBay for cheap so I really don't mind spending on some alterations.
     
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    With my Harris tweed the single vent in the back pulls open because of my rather large buttocks. Is there anyway to fix this without making the jacket look odd when worn? It's also only a big issue when I'm walking, if I'm standing around it isn't too bad but after walking it looks like someone cut the jacket apart.
     
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    squats?
     
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    That's what caused the problem in the first place. I squat about 400lbs which makes my butt large and pushes the sides of my single vented jackets out a bit more then is probably acceptable.
     
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  10. madmike13

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    im trying to put together an outfit for an upcoming event and could use some advice. its a cast party for a play i was recently involved in, and the dress code isn't well defined but it seems to be semi-formal or formal type feel (at least it was the last time i went). due to the fact that i haven't really updated anything in the dressier side of my wardrobe since I lost quite a bit of weight i don't have much to work with at the moment so ill be buying stuff. i don't mind spending a little bit but i am a college student on a budget so funds are somewhat limited. here's what im working with:
    -i'm about 5'7 160lbs,a bit more muscular than average but not anything spectacular.
    -i do have a white dress shirt and grey pinstripe dress pants that i wore at my sisters wedding recently, both from express.

    I was thinking of doing a vest/dress pants/dress shirt/tie combo, im decent at color matching (although advice would be appreciated), but im clueless on the finer details of styles.

    any advice appreciated
     
  11. 12345Michael54321

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    The typical cast party to which a college student such as yourself would be invited would more likely feature jeans, than formal or semi-formal dress, but if you've been to one before, and you tell me it'll be formal or semi-formal, I guess I have to believe you. (Although note my comment on formal attire, below.)

    Wear your white shirt. Pull on a pair of chinos. Buy an inexpensive navy blazer off eBay. There. The bulk of your work is done, and you haven't spent big money, either.

    I'd add a tie, maybe even a bow tie. Almost any tie will be at least tolerable with a white shirt, chinos, and navy blazer.

    If you own a pair of loafers, wear 'em. If not, well, shoes that'll work with chinos and a navy blazer aren't all that hard to find; you might already have a suitable pair.

    The above is much better than the vest and grey pinstriped dress pants look you mentioned. It'll serve you adequately assuming most of the other male guests at the party are wearing sportcoats, blazers, or casual suits. It won't work if the party's truly formal dress, but I'm going on the assumption that what you call "formal," most of us here would identify as "semi-formal." (If you're not expected to show up in a tuxedo, don't go calling it formal. If you are expected to show up in a tuxedo, then your problem of what to wear is easily solved - wear a tuxedo.)

    My experience with cast parties is decades old, and even then it wasn't all that extensive. But generally speaking, they weren't affairs where the most traditional aspects of proper dress were rigidly upheld. Struggling young actors weren't made to feel like buffoons for wearing balmorals instead of derbys, and that's putting it very mildly. Maybe things have changed, or maybe this is a cast party that's going to be covered by tv cameras and the press or something, and super-rich financial backers will be second in abundance only to middle-aged heiresses shopping for new boy toys. But assuming it's not that type of party (a pretty safe assumption), my guess is that you needn't get too stressed out over what to wear.
     
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    In that case, squat less?
     
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    Sleeves are too short, but other than that, looks pretty good. There is also a tailors' thread specifically for fit questions, though you might want to try taking clearer photos first.
     
  14. mimo

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    The first thing to do it put on a proper shirt and tie, dress shoes and a belt i.e. wear it the way you're going to wear it. You'll get a much better idea of how it's really looking. Then review what E.TF said!

    If there is plenty of excess fabric in the side seams and the vent itself, your tailor might be able to let it out a bit, but it's tricky to keep it hanging right. But I suspect it;s just the wrong jacket. I know the centre vent is very common in the US, but it might not be right for your body shape, at least not in standard fits.
     
  15. madmike13

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    Thanks for the info, in regards to the atmosphere of the party it is pretty atypical compared to similiar events with other groups. this particular group likes to make an event of it if only for the sake of showing off to each other. past events with them ive usually just worn a nice black suit and tie (which is now to large for me) but i was kind of looking to change it up a bit this time. a nicer suit is typically what ive seen in the past. ive even seen a few three piece suits. that said these are all theater/dance types so some of them have gotten creative and theres not really any set dress code or style as its all just an excuse to get dressed up, and the outfit you laid out would likely not be to out of place either.
     
  16. mimo

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    Sounds to me like you already have a style in mind. Maybe if the blue blazer-and-chinos safety casual doesn't satisfy (although I agree, it's the easiest, most widely pleasing and versatile combo in creation), you should tell us more about what your options are in terms of existing wardrobe and/or budget? It sounds like a little part of you would like to peacock a bit. I empathise. :)
     
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  17. madmike13

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    guilty as charged on the peacocking. as far as existing options...not much. im kind of in the midst of a slow wardrobe overhaul. my everyday wardrobe is pretty much jeans, t-shirts, a few button-ups and polos not worth mentioning and sweatshirts. ive been hesitant to spend money on a new wardrobe because ive dropped from 200lbs down to 165ish in the past year and a half and wanted to make sure i could keep the weight off. as far as budget goes i have been setting aside some money for nicer clothes so I wouldn't be opposed to spending even up to about $100-200 if its good quality and versatile for future events. as far as what I had in mind, yes ive been looking at a number of things. I was thinking the vest/ dress pants cause I saw a few pics that looked kind of cool, but i've mostly just been browsing at this point. im not really attached to the grey pinstripe pants at all im just putting it out their in case someone has some advice on how to match those.
     
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  18. msulinski

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    What is the difference in how lapels are pressed for 3-roll-2 vs 2 button?
     
  19. mimo

    mimo Senior member

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    *warning - contains sweeping generalisations*

    MM, if you're going to peacock on a budget, maybe you should check out some thrift/charity shops and try to find an interesting (or offensive!) suit that doesn't need too much adjusting. Otherwise, if you have any suit that fits you, then maybe trade up on the shoes and accessories. But the waistcoat and trousers with no jacket thing is a bit low-grade style mag, and makes you look like a bell hop. :)
     
  20. aravenel

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    Yeah, vest without a jacket look makes you look like a waiter. No good.
     

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